Armenia for Armenians

[Yedtarts]

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Dashnaks did support ASALA, and Western Armenians alike, mostly through financial means, and they also aligned themselves with Palestinian organizations. Congratulations Akpars you supported terrorists...

Congratulations “Akhpers” you made an arss of yourself.

[arakeretzig]

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If anybody has the right to represent Armenia's interest in the diaspora it is Eastern Armenians from Armenia. The others are just Armenians from descent.

that's a truely idiotic statement. Let's see how long Armenia's economy and future projects will last without diaspora (of which a large number of them are western armenians), not to mention you can kiss USA's aid good bye.
Just the other day, a new cardiology center was opened in Syunik, which will not only serve south Armenia but Artsakh too, and guess who financed and helped build and train the personnel? French-Armenians.

[lampron]

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I heard when the talks to open the borders were at their highest, Turkish businessmen in excess were coming to Yerevan, and all the Armenian girls were trying throwing themselves to them. Just because they were businessman with money.

There is no doubt that when borders are opened and diplomatic relations established, Turkish businessmen will come to Armenia, buying Armenian businesses and bringing in investment, as they have done in many other republics. Few may settle or marry but Armenia's economy may start depending on Turkey.

What will Armenians do then?

300 years ago Armenians were seen as cutting-edge traders going around the world from Amsterdam to Singapore in search of opportunities. The Turks were seen as a fierce, warlike people who were not interested in trade, art, literature etc

Turkish businessmen are poised to penetrate Armenia. Where are the diaspora businessmen?

[Karabed]

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I don't insult the freedom fighters who gave their lives. in Karabakh War But I disagree with the ARF politics and am especially annoyed by the ARF diasporans who have screwed up priorities. They don't represent Armenia, they are delusional and think they do. Many of them speak and act like Armenia sent them when in fact they've rarely or never set foot in Armenia.

With ''Armenian freedom fighters'' I was referring to ASALA members, they should have your respect not your insults. Their actions made the world aware of our forgotten genocide.
And stop calling them terrorists, their targets were the rats that committed the Armenian genocide, they deserve no mercy, they were/are carrying out the last phase of the genocide and therefore are valid target.

If anybody has the right to represent Armenia's interest in the diaspora it is Eastern Armenians from Armenia. The others are just Armenians from descent.

This is exactly what I mean, you are the one responsible for the rift between Armenians. I am insulted to hear this. I'm going to ignore it because I want to keep this civil.

Their support of ASALA is just a testament of their extremism and danger, and the scary part is by saying they represent Armenia with their stupid actions their ruin the reputation of Armenia. Lastly, many of these Dashnaks have betrayed their race that they claim to be part of and allied themselves with Muslims.

The Armenian Diaspora (eastern and western Armenians) does represents Republic of Armenia whether you like it or not. Lastly no one betrayed their race, it was probably necessary to use the muslims to reach their goal, I see no betrayal just improvise.

[KarotheGreat]

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Mos thank you for showing what you really are, people like you are the real threat to Armenia. It's not external enemies like the Azeris but internal ones. People like you who make a difference between Western, Eastern, you and people like you are the true enemy of Armenia.

You talk about great freedom fighters like no Armenia on the face of this earth has ever done. I hate everything about Levon but you sir are even a bigger threat toe Armenia and it's cause. Right now you should be ashamed of yourself.

You talk about 'Western-Armenians' not representing the interest of the Republic of Armenia, but forget every the Diaspora has done for Armenia. Do you think America would be so nice to Armenia as it is now without the power of the diaspora? Do you think there would be a country on the face of the planet would recognize the genocide? America would support Azerbaijan to attack and take back Artsakh right now. The only reason that they are 'neutral' now is because of the diaspora.

Thank you for showing how little you actually know about anything, be it politics, our history or anything else. Keep on posting this BS so that more people can see what you really are and know what not to do.

[londontsi]

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I'm not saying that Dashnaks are not Armenian or something. I just disagree with their political stance towards Armenian issues and Armenia,

Such as .........
In a Democratic Country opposition parties can have different views to the ruling party.

I believe they (composed of mostly western Armenians) don't represent the interests of the Republic and at times even harm Armenia with their actions.

The Republic is meant to represent its people, not the other way round. That is why there are democratic elections.

(composed of mostly western Armenians).

A very divisive view for somebody who believes in “Մեկ Ազգ”.

Incidentally I am an Armenian, ( only a “Western Armenian” according to you.)

Instead of trying to help the real Armenian people in Armenia, they sit in their comfortable western countries and go about trying to find "justice" and going on a blood hunt against anything Turkish..

You get 10 out of 10 from the Turks for this.

I find this rather egotistical, and must say many Armenians in Armenia, don't view Dashnaks that favourably, especially in the government..

Very odd statement. Do you follow Armenian Politics? Dasnaks were part of the coalition government until recently.

Usually the view of them is "oh those nationalistic lunatic akhpars..." .

I suppose you see my views as lunatic since I am ( as you put it) akhpar as well.

They've also supported the disgusting terrorist group of ASLA,

I think you would get another 10 out of 10 from the Turks for this.
Although ASALA was not affiliated to the dashnaks.

...and this really damaged Armenian's image around the world.

Armenian image was was not damaged by ASALA no more than EOKA damaged the Greeks in Cyprus,
Mau Mau damaged the Kikuyu in Kenya or the tens of other patriotic liberation movements in the history of mankind.

I can't believe they could do such a thing, I guess that's what happens when you spend to much time with Muslims.

What thing? Have a cause and fight for a cause?

They are responsible for the rift that grown between Western Armenians and Eastern Armenians, and especially Diaspora vs. Homeland.

There is no rift between Western Armenians and Eastern Armenians.

[Mos]

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Just this one proves that you know nothing about 2 of them, and when you don’t know what are you talking about, don’t start making analyses.

Dashnaks did support ASALA, and Western Armenians alike, mostly through financial means, and they also aligned themselves with Palestinian organizations. Congratulations Akpars you supported terrorists...

[Yedtarts]

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Their support of ASALA is just a testament of their extremism and danger, and the scary part is by saying they represent Armenia with their stupid actions their ruin the reputation of Armenia. Lastly, many of these Dashnaks have betrayed their race that they claim to be part of and allied themselves with Muslims.

Just this one proves that you know nothing about 2 of them, and when you don’t know what are you talking about, don’t start making analyses.

[Mos]

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Why do you insult the Armenian freedom fighters? They attacked legitimate enemy targets, they sacrificed their lives for the Armenian cause. They have done more for Armenians then you'll ever do in your life, yet you insult them. Your kind is responsible for the rift that grows between Armenians not them or the Dashnaks.
One more thing, isn't there a monument for them in Armenia?

I don't insult the freedom fighters who gave their lives. in Karabakh War But I disagree with the ARF politics and am especially annoyed by the ARF diasporans who have screwed up priorities. They don't represent Armenia, they are delusional and think they do. Many of them speak and act like Armenia sent them when in fact they've rarely or never set foot in Armenia. If anybody has the right to represent Armenia's interest in the diaspora it is Eastern Armenians from Armenia. The others are just Armenians from descent.

Their support of ASALA is just a testament of their extremism and danger, and the scary part is by saying they represent Armenia with their stupid actions their ruin the reputation of Armenia. Lastly, many of these Dashnaks have betrayed their race that they claim to be part of and allied themselves with Muslims.

And yes, the Armenian public in Armenia doesn't have a favourable opinion of Dashnaks. The only reason Dashnaks aren't banned, is because the leaders are from Karabakh, which naturally has strong ties with Dashnaks. People view them as a nuisance, and diasporan fanatics.

[araratsi]

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What was done at the time was probably the right thing to do this is the only way the Turkish government would get any idea of what they did to us and that they would not feel safe anywhere they went .
I hope something like that doesnt happen again but one persons terrorist is an others freedom fighter .