How does everyone feel about Israel?

[KanadaHye]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

Well the nuclear bomb was a terrible act done by the US, the agent orange wasn't directed towards civilians, but it was not carefully used. If you are going to hold US so responsible for that how about Britain during their colonial times the number of people they killed? Or the Spanish in Central/South America? You know how many people they killed? How about Soviet Union in killing millions of its own people or upon enter Afghanistan carpet bombing the country with no respect to civilians (a war which US has been much more milder as respective to the people living there)? Face it every country has done bad things in the past, especially any country that was a major power. So nobody is more "evil" than the other. Everybody has blood on their hands, stop trying to make it so only one side has that blood and everybody else are angels.

First of all, I don't hold the U.S. responsible because they don't control their own foreign policy. Britain and Israel have more control over US foreign policy than U.S. politicians. U.S. independence from Britain was just a fraud. At least the common wealth countries don't pretend that they don't bow down to the British crown.

So you do admit know that terrorist attacks are wrong?

The pattern is that Palestinian groups make a terrorist attack, and than the Israelis retaliate often retaliating overly harshly. I support retaliating against terrorist groups, but strongly condemn when such things are done with little consideration to civilian populace (which is done from time to time). Sometimes civilian deaths are unavoidable, sometimes it's because they are being used as human shields, and sometimes it's just carelessness by the Israelis.

I'm saying that not everything is what it seems to be. Many Imperialistic countries are known to create their own false flag operations to justify military action. There is a lot of strategy involved in war and politics and the most powerful tool used to sway public opinion is the media. I can see Israeli citizens are weary of their own government since they are closer to the truth and live the events days in and day out. We get third party information and well thought out propaganda.

[Sip]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

News stories like this often tend to prove to me over and over that pretty much the entire middle east is littered with absolute idiots:

'Atheist' Palestinian jailed 'for his own safety'

Sometimes I get so disappointed that I feel they should just all blow each other up to hell and let nature restart. This has clearly been one of those cases where evolution needs to take a step back to get itself out of this moronic "ideological deadlock".

Although I don't think there is much hope between the Jew/Muslim conflict as things have been, I do hope at least the muslims and Arabs pull their collective heads out of their rear ends in the next few decades and at least stop fighting each other. I still have hope.

[KanadaHye]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

News stories like this often tend to prove to me over and over that pretty much the entire middle east is littered with absolute idiots:

'Atheist' Palestinian jailed 'for his own safety'

Sometimes I get so disappointed that I feel they should just all blow each other up to hell and let nature restart. This has clearly been one of those cases where evolution needs to take a step back to get itself out of this moronic "ideological deadlock".

Although I don't think there is much hope between the Jew/Muslim conflict as things have been, I do hope at least the muslims and Arabs pull their collective heads out of their rear ends in the next few decades and at least stop fighting each other. I still have hope.

That's surprising considering at one point Facebook was blocking the word 'Palestinian' from being used. It's one thing trying to remove people from their land and squeezing the life out of them but going one step further and erasing them from the internet... hrm.

To: Mark Zuckerberg CEO of Facebook

Against delisting Palestine from Facebook. This petition is in response to a facebook group whose aim is to delist Palestine from a list of regions for users to choose from when entering their geographical information. There is no reason for creating a group against Palestine and causing an electronic war, nothing will be gained from that. Its only purpose is to harm others, especially new comers who will not find their country on the list of networks. In all honesty what does it matter to the facebook group "'Palestine' Is not a country... De-list it from Facebook as a country!" whether or not Palestine is listed on the system?

http://www.petitiononline.com/ADPF/petition.html

[Azar]

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They installed a very theocratic government by wide popular support.

Those Iranians who were supporting this "very theocratic government" must be of been really different from modern day Iranians because the average Iranian today does not care much for religion

[Sip]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

That's surprising considering at one point Facebook was blocking the word 'Palestinian' from being used.

Don't get me started on facebook Lets get rid of the middle east first. Hopefully we can get rid of Facebook right after that too.

[KanadaHye]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

Those Iranians who were supporting this "very theocratic government" must be of been really different from modern day Iranians because the average Iranian today does not care much for religion

They were supporting conservatism which is a whole lot different than a theocracy but just like any Republic, with one comes the other.

Don't get me started on facebook Lets get rid of the middle east first. Hopefully we can get rid of Facebook right after that too.

The Facebook servers are probably in the Middle East. Neither are going anywhere but I guarantee you both will transform periodically to throw people off

I also recently found out that Armenia is not officially recognized by Pakistan:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partially_recognized_states

F*ck Pakistan, I mean they seem more anti-Armenian than Turkey....

Armenia and India have some deeply rooted connections and Pakistan supports Turkey and Azerbaijan. They can take the crescent lucine and shove it up their vors. Why Armenia cares who Kashmir belongs to is beyond me.

[Eddo211]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

Why Armenia cares who Kashmir belongs to is beyond me.

Because it is similar to NKR’s situation in some ways, besides being a good way to piss off the blood tursty Pakis.

In regards to the Iranian Revoution:
The catalyst was the gradual loss of its sovereignty and control of its own energy resources to foreign powers where The Shah was seen as corrupt. How the hell it turned into this Islamic Regime has most Iranians kicking themselves in the butt.

The Shah could have stopped the onset of the revolution but he could not bring himself to open fire on his own people so he personally flew himself and his family out of the country and the revolution that was led by a popular religious figure happened without any resistance from the military.

Btw Ayatollah Komeini’s life was spared and he was exiled to Britain by the Shah some years earlier. When he came to power he broke all his promisses and the invasion by Iraq sealed the faith.

Muslim unity is a myth......and Arabs can only find unity in their dreams or when they retreat like a stampede. Iranians (who can be very united) got their number well

[KanadaHye]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

Because it is similar to NKR’s situation in some ways, besides being a good way to piss off the blood tursty Pakis.

In regards to the Iranian Revoution:
The catalyst was the gradual loss of its sovereignty and control of its own energy resources to foreign powers where The Shah was seen as corrupt. How the hell it turned into this Islamic Regime has most Iranians kicking themselves in the butt.

The Shah could have stopped the onset of the revolution but he could not bring himself to open fire on his own people so he personally flew himself and his family out of the country and the revolution that was led by a popular religious figure happened without any resistance from the military.

Btw Ayatollah Komeini’s life was spared and he was exiled to Britain by the Shah some years earlier. When he came to power he broke all his promisses and the invasion by Iraq sealed the faith.

Muslim unity is a myth......and Arabs can only find unity in their dreams or when they retreat like a stampede. Iranians (who can be very united) got their number well

It's really all mind boggling. I understand the war for oil, what I don't understand is why we don't get the proper media reporting in the West. Why is there a need to cover up the facts and make it look like religious or ethnic strife. Saddam was launching SCUD missiles at Israel before the American military invaded Iraq. Now Iran is new Israeli threat. Neither of the countries in the region really get along but one thing is certain, they all seem to know Israel is the problem, or at least that's when they get attention. Iraq has oil, Iran has oil... instead of figuring out ways of efficiently extracting and producing oil products, the world "leaders" just keep wasting the resources while sending armies to fight over rights to the oil fields.

[Yedtarts]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

The media in the west can’t be trusted, it’s a propaganda and brain washing machine, all are owned and controlled by few people, and one can tell by their biasness these people are loyal to whom.

[Mos]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

The media in the west can’t be trusted, it’s a propaganda and brain washing machine, all are owned and controlled by few people, and one can tell by their biasness these people are loyal to whom.

Okay so which media can be trusted? Russia Today?