How does everyone feel about Israel?

[Yedtarts]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

I agree. This is what Armenians should fear and take seriously - watch the video below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NShtdW7fcos

Why should Armenians fear of this?

[Persopolis]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

Why should Armenians fear of this?

GOOD QUESTION. Ever wonder why Iranians appreciate Armenians and have absolutely no problem with their ancient practice of the Christian faith (150 churches in Iran)? And ever wonder why Iranians look less favorably at some other recently formed "Christian" groups? The reason is that religious groups sometimes get infiltrated and use for political ends - so Iran doesn't allow anti-Iranian groups to use religion as a pretext for undermining the State. The video is an example, and below is another -- Armenians should be watchful of these tactics. Be suspicious; be safe; don't take chances on national security: screen outside Christian groups that are trying to make inroads into Armenia.
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* The Crypto xxxs Called Donmeh:
In 1716 a group called the Donmeh forms in Salonica headed by Sabbatai Zvis successor, Baruchya Russo. In 1900 the Donmeh numbers over 100,000. Known as Crypto xxxs, they appear to be Muslims, but were xxxs.

* The Young Turks Are Formed:
In 1891 a political group from the Donmeh forms called The Committee of Union and Progress, and later called The Young Turks. The group is headed by Freemason xxx Emmanuel Carrusso with the help of the Rothschilds.

* In 1915 The Armenian Holocaust engineered by the xxxish Young Turks leaves 1.5 million Armenian Christians murdered.

* xxxish Bolsheviks Supply The Young Turks:
In 1920 the Russian xxxish Bolsheviks supply Attaturk with 10 million gold roubles, 45,000 rifles, and 300 machine guns to keep Armenians under control.

* 2011 - Israel supplies Azeri-Turks with modern weapons.
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Doesn't it strike you as odd that the Prime Ministers of Israel (men with their fingers on the nuclear button and chiefs of the Mossad) made TV infomercials for Benny Hinn (a "Christian" TV pastor from Israel that cures cancer by the power of touch)?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHx3Ibt_E2I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJSzxCWwBw4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a54iqEr1flQ

(It would be interesting to hire an Islamic expert from each branch of Islam, to evaluate both Attaturk's and Aliyev's purported devotion to their purported faith. Can you imagine the negative fallout for the Pan-Turkist movement if the experts said that these so-called Muslim leaders totally act at odds with their purported faith? How would that go over with the Azeri public?)

(By the way, Iran has no problems with its ancient xxxish population, but has issues with Israel. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn4ZX99Fbxs)

[Yedtarts]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

GOOD QUESTION. Ever wonder why Iranians appreciate Armenians and have absolutely no problem with their ancient practice of the Christian faith (150 churches in Iran)? And ever wonder why Iranians look less favorably at some other recently formed "Christian" groups? The reason is that religious groups sometimes get infiltrated and use for political ends - so Iran doesn't allow anti-Iranian groups to use religion as a pretext for undermining the State. The video is an example, and below is another -- Armenians should be watchful of these tactics. Be suspicious; be safe; don't take chances on national security: screen outside Christian groups that are trying to make inroads into Armenia.
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* The Crypto xxxs Called Donmeh:
In 1716 a group called the Donmeh forms in Salonica headed by Sabbatai Zvis successor, Baruchya Russo. In 1900 the Donmeh numbers over 100,000. Known as Crypto xxxs, they appear to be Muslims, but were xxxs.

* The Young Turks Are Formed:
In 1891 a political group from the Donmeh forms called The Committee of Union and Progress, and later called The Young Turks. The group is headed by Freemason xxx Emmanuel Carrusso with the help of the Rothschilds.

* In 1915 The Armenian Holocaust engineered by the xxxish Young Turks leaves 1.5 million Armenian Christians murdered.

* xxxish Bolsheviks Supply The Young Turks:
In 1920 the Russian xxxish Bolsheviks supply Attaturk with 10 million gold roubles, 45,000 rifles, and 300 machine guns to keep Armenians under control.

* 2011 - Israel supplies Azeri-Turks with modern weapons.
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Doesn't it strike you as odd that the Prime Ministers of Israel (men with their fingers on the nuclear button and chiefs of the Mossad) made TV infomercials for Benny Hinn (a "Christian" TV pastor from Israel that cures cancer by the power of touch)?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHx3Ibt_E2I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJSzxCWwBw4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a54iqEr1flQ

(It would be interesting to hire an Islamic expert from each branch of Islam, to evaluate both Attaturk's and Aliyev's purported devotion to their purported faith. Can you imagine the negative fallout for the Pan-Turkist movement if the experts said that these so-called Muslim leaders totally act at odds with their purported faith? How would that go over with the Azeri public?)

(By the way, Iran has no problems with its ancient xxxish population, but has issues with Israel. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn4ZX99Fbxs)

I am very well aware of all these, but my question was why should Armenians be aware of that video clip?
I think Armenians should be more aware of those that are members of free masons which some of them are high ranked priests, heads of political parties or head of benevolent organizations.

[Persopolis]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

^^^^^^^^
It's only a matter of time before the characters in the video reach out to Armenians (if they haven't already). By the way, I agree about the FM too.

[Yedtarts]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

^^^^^^^^
It's only a matter of time before the characters in the video reach out to Armenians (if they haven't already). By the way, I agree about the FM too.

Believe me when people have good leaders that work for the good of their people and their nation they can lead their people to the right path by talking and explaining to them what’s right and what’s wrong, but when the leaders are agents of hidden agendas there lies the problem, the danger and corruption.

[Armanen]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

Believe me when people have good leaders that work for the good of their people and their nation they can lead their people to the right path by talking and explaining to them what’s right and what’s wrong, but when the leaders are agents of hidden agendas there lies the problem, the danger and corruption.

Very well said Yedtarts. People will accept a leader who is just, and in fact, as long as he remains just he may even be able to rule till he gives up power or dies.

[Persopolis]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

russiatoday is as much propaganda as the major US media sources. I stick to watching a variety which mostly consist of European news sources, Armenian (obviously), Azeri/Turkish, some Russian and Middle Eastern on the side.

Want to see real propaganda? Visit the Azeri news sources: Presently they're trying to sell Iranians on the idea that Armenians are trying to convert Iranians into Christians. (Not only is it ridiculous; it's clear that there is no lie the Azeri government won't tell.) The entire Azeri news media is built on the KGB style of brainwashing thanks to Haydar Aliyev. http://www.today.az/

If I was in charge of Iran, I would build another town in the North of Iran for Armenians, with a giant memorial to the victims of the genocide in the city center just to answer the vile Azeri tactics. Azeri lies only work with their own populations and people in the U.S. dumb enough to believe there is a Muslim/Christian war in Iran. The fact is that Iranians and Armenians have known each other and have been friends for centuries.

[Mos]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

Want to see real propaganda? Visit the Azeri news sources: Presently they're trying to sell Iranians on the idea that Armenians are trying to convert Iranians into Christians. (Not only is it ridiculous; it's clear that there is no lie the Azeri government won't tell.) The entire Azeri news media is built on the KGB style of brainwashing thanks to Haydar Aliyev. http://www.today.az/

If I was in charge of Iran, I would build another town in the North of Iran for Armenians, with a giant memorial to the victims of the genocide in the city center just to answer the vile Azeri tactics. Azeri lies only work with their own populations and people in the U.S. dumb enough to believe there is a Muslim/Christian war in Iran. The fact is that Iranians and Armenians have known each other and have been friends for centuries.

Why do you keep quoting my posts from several months ago?

[ara87]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

I would hope more Iranians than Israelis could point out Armenia on the map since we're next door neighbors.

As for my thoughts on Israel, was it wrong for them to just return after all that time? yes, they should of carved a country out of Germany for themselves, but they're there now, and they can't all leave, and in the end you have too look at it like this there's only one xxxish state, and at least 20 arab states.

The current problem with Israel and Palestine may have originally been Israel's fault, but in the end some blame also lies with the Arabs, what happened to Palestinian refugees in Lebanon and Jordan? Why are they treated like dirt in other Arab countries? Why won't other Arab states offer them citizenship for the past 5 decades?

Had Palestinians been allowed to live full and equal lives in other Arab countries for the past half century most of them would of moved and started over in other Arab countries, or they could have chosen to just live in Israel. In the end it's not as vital for the legacy of man kind to have an independent Palestine as opposed to an Israeli state. The Arabs of Palestine are essentially the same as the Arabs of Jordan who in turn are the same as other Arabs, the difference amongst them all is that Great Britain and other European nations drew random lines across the middle east and messed it up a bunch just like they did when they split up africa

[Federate]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

The current problem with Israel and Palestine may have originally been Israel's fault, but in the end some blame also lies with the Arabs, what happened to Palestinian refugees in Lebanon and Jordan? Why are they treated like dirt in other Arab countries? Why won't other Arab states offer them citizenship for the past 5 decades?

Had Palestinians been allowed to live full and equal lives in other Arab countries for the past half century most of them would of moved and started over in other Arab countries, or they could have chosen to just live in Israel. In the end it's not as vital for the legacy of man kind to have an independent Palestine as opposed to an Israeli state. The Arabs of Palestine are essentially the same as the Arabs of Jordan who in turn are the same as other Arabs, the difference amongst them all is that Great Britain and other European nations drew random lines across the middle east and messed it up a bunch just like they did when they split up africa

How the Arab World treats its Palestinian refugees is not a cause of the Israeli-Palestinian problem but a consequence. The refugees are not treated badly in the sense that they are oppressed or kicked around. They simply do not have any status in their host countries for a variety of reasons. To understand the main reason or strategy taken by the Palestinians, I recommend this short article where Arafat talks about Armenians. The Palestinian refugees themselves do not want citizenship. From the host countries' POV, it would've been a disaster for them if all of a sudden that many people become citizens, too big of an influx and state not able to handle it. There's also political reasons such as in Lebanon. Can you imagine what kind of an impact it would have on Lebanon if 250 000 Palestinians become citizens in a country of 4 million? Lebanon ALREADY has a problem with sectarian divisions... For Jordan's case, the king is in denial that the majority of his country is Palestinian while he is not and it would be bad for him if more join the majority.

What you are proposing basically amounts to saying Palestinians should've just assimilated into generic Arabs. That beats the point of one of the major goals of their struggle and that is to return to Israel. Choosing to live in Israel is not an option simply because Israel drove many of them out and doesn't want them back or it will be a demographic disaster to uphold the "J3wishness" of Israel.

I definitely agree with your comments on Arabs being the same and GB drawing lines between them but Arab@ esh e yev esh ge mna. They will continue dividing themselves because their leaders are all sellouts to the highest Western bidder. Gamal Abdel Nasser was the last great Pan-Arab leader and his attempts to unify all of the Arabs did not last long.