Will Armenia get Ararat back from Turkey?

[Anonymouse]

Thank you eek, you rock!!!!

At this moment, I wanted to tell you something; for a nationalist or patriotic person to hate another nation, that person's education is very important at primary school.

At Primary school, yes, many nations were shown us as enemies, but Armenians were not one of them; in fact, what I heard at school at that time was that Armenians attacked the Turks together with the French army, and this was the only sentence in books, which is not a lot nor is it enough to make a nation hate another one.

But I agree with your hatred in that you do not live in the lands your ancestors once lived, although I do not agree with the genocide claims.

Take care everyone,
Hexing

This sort of collective thinking of "nations" hating other "nations" and imposing rigid words to somehow speak for all people within that nation is the problem of all nationalisms. The heavy assumptions carried in such words are often what blur the issues, more than shedding light. It is ipso facto assumed that "nations" represent every individual within that sphere. Thereby to assert "make a nation hate another one" is illusory at best. What constitutes nations? Individual people. And do all individuals think alike? No they do not, unless you live in some Marxist dream of uniformity. Yet somehow, the point between where the individual is and where the nation begins is blurred by nationalisms and other collective creeds. So to assert that "this nation hates that nation" is at best an abuse of words, for it in no way reflects the entire diversity of thought of the individuals that comprise that given body.

[Silva]

Re: Will Armenia get Ararat back from Turkey?

hey Yuro,

it is the Armenians 1 000 000 % Armenians but those stupid Turks are to greedy and selfish to give it back to the Armenians and don't want to admit this happened (genocide). But on the other hand, there government is still debating on if they should give it back. I totally agree with you that Ararat is an Armenian symbol and yet they think its theirs. hopefully one day I can become a lawyer and open a law suit on the and you will see how they will go nuts! they never talk about it because in there perspective it has been a lie story told on for over 70 years. Armenians should try harder because all the survivors and evidence will not last long enough to prove this happened.

[Tigranakert]

Re: Will Armenia get Ararat back from Turkey?

hey Yuro,

it is the Armenians 1 000 000 % Armenians but those stupid Turks are to greedy and selfish to give it back to the Armenians and don't want to admit this happened (genocide). But on the other hand, there government is still debating on if they should give it back. I totally agree with you that Ararat is an Armenian symbol and yet they think its theirs. hopefully one day I can become a lawyer and open a law suit on the and you will see how they will go nuts! they never talk about it because in there perspective it has been a lie story told on for over 70 years. Armenians should try harder because all the survivors and evidence will not last long enough to prove this happened.

There is more chance to get Ararat back becoming a soldier, not a lawyer. Actually, that is the only chance.

[Silva]

Re: Will Armenia get Ararat back from Turkey?

There is more chance to get Ararat back becoming a soldier, not a lawyer. Actually, that is the only chance.

What if alot of armenians lose there lifes again?? There is a bog risk. They recently bought more guns and weapons from the united states to attack some parts of middle east for no reason

[Mher]

Re: Will Armenia get Ararat back from Turkey?

“It is about time that we loudly repudiate the romantic conceit that ‘My pen is my gun.’ Pens are pens and guns are guns. There are more than enough ‘intellectuals’ in the diaspora. What we need are fighters, soldiers, fedaiis.” -Monte

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Will Armenia get Ararat back from Turkey?

hey Yuro,

it is the Armenians 1 000 000 % Armenians but those stupid Turks are to greedy and selfish to give it back to the Armenians and don't want to admit this happened (genocide). But on the other hand, there government is still debating on if they should give it back. I totally agree with you that Ararat is an Armenian symbol and yet they think its theirs. hopefully one day I can become a lawyer and open a law suit on the and you will see how they will go nuts! they never talk about it because in there perspective it has been a lie story told on for over 70 years. Armenians should try harder because all the survivors and evidence will not last long enough to prove this happened.

Our latest member, Silva, can only post from his kindergarden school, and he has to be in bed by 7pm. But shouldn't 5-year olds be dreaming of being a fireman, or an astronaut - dreaming of being a lawyer is a sad reflection on today's childhood aspirations.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Will Armenia get Ararat back from Turkey?

“It is about time that we loudly repudiate the romantic conceit that ‘My pen is my gun.’ Pens are pens and guns are guns. There are more than enough ‘intellectuals’ in the diaspora. What we need are fighters, soldiers, fedaiis.” -Monte

And all the penwork on this forum can do is ressurect a thread that has been dead for 8 years and that was (in anonymouse's words) an "exercise in futility" when alive.

[londontsi]

Re: Will Armenia get Ararat back from Turkey?

And all the penwork on this forum can do is ressurect a thread that has been dead for 8 years and that was (in anonymouse's words) an "exercise in futility" when alive.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Will Armenia get Ararat back from Turkey?

Beware of persons who fill their speeches with phrases like "historical fact". Neither is Ararat mentioned, or the borders of Armenia defined, in the treaty of Sevres.

[Silva]

Re: Will Armenia get Ararat back from Turkey?

Our latest member, Silva, can only post from his kindergarden school, and he has to be in bed by 7pm. But shouldn't 5-year olds be dreaming of being a fireman, or an astronaut - dreaming of being a lawyer is a sad reflection on today's childhood aspirations.

Being a lawyer is not a sad effection, its a way of getting the land back. If we have soldiers, we could lose lives again and decrease our population even more. I dont want that to happen and them to take all the land again. Would you? I dont think so.