Armenian Slang & Idioms

[nunechka]

i wanted to compile all the posts that che-ka made that were inflamtory and i realized that there was a common thread - if you will - about your posts mr or ms... you say one thing and turn around and say the opposite all the time, i just dont have the time or patience for you...

you said "EA is not incomplete, but it doesnt have authentic spelling and grammer" come on... you can see the illogic there... or when you said "WA overclaim their armenianness becuase they were descendents of the survivors of the genocide, and that they lived in other countries" the second part i totally get, and never said anything about but BUT BUT! when i replyed to the first part about the genocide and how we are also survivors, you "said ohh ya i know that" well if you know that then why are you stating that as an exclusive trait of the WA. you dont directly say its exlusive, but the fact that you say it and follow it with an "ohh ya of course" means you did know it, but you didnt want to face truth, and you did only when i pointed it out to you, in extra nice terms...

anywho, this thread has officially died thanks to che-ka and me...

i love armenian slang, but it wouldnt be slang if it wasnt ridiculas, or for that matter made up... so whats better then making up a word, using another language...

and i'd like for you to remember this

Nunechka: The war begins. lol

i never cared nor did i create this nor did i start this, and i didnt refute your "ka" or yaaoww" or whatever you wrote, but you refuted mine, and in fact you said it was a war...

and i am the arrogant one?

[Baron Dants]

Nunechka, what are you saying?
Arevelahay slangs are great! I use them all the time...ba vonts and everything. I think you're getting too carried away, and have grossly disfigured what I was saying.

Did I say that I don't approve the new Eastern Armenian SPELLING? Yes. But many arevelahays also did not approve of that spelling, so it's not like I'm being anti-Eastern Armenian or anything. I just think it's best for the language (no matter the dialect) to keep the original spelling. The one used by Apovian and all.

That still does not equate to being a criticism of Eastern Armenian. Far from it. As I've said all the time, both dialects are beautiful, but that does not mean that we can't admit that both now have their particular flaw (The new spelling for Eastern Armenian, the blurring of the pronounciation of many consonants in Western).

And if I "insulted" you, it's because of your allegations that Western Armenian was nothing more than a village dialect, and your constant allusions to that assumption.

[Che_Ka]

i didnt make up the fact that you did in fact call Arevelahayeren inferior... you said that it is incorrect and that the this is the reason why your precious ignorant brain wont accept it... you did say it...

Prove it.

and then you attempted to back off by saying, i didnt really say that, if you couldnt tell i was being sarcastic, or "i actually ment something else"... i didnt pull it out of thin air like the grammer of WA, I READ IT IN YOUR POST... you specifically said, "EA is in fact not real armenian, that rather it is soviet armenian"

Delusional Nunechka strikes again! Please find that quote.

And dear Lord! "I didn't pull it out of thin air like the grammar of WA" -- I never insulted or put down the grammar of EA. I have no reason to! It is a beautiful counterpart to WA. You are so misguided. If you knew anything about Armenian language's history, you would know that I was (and still am) against the SPELLING SYSTEM used by the Republic of Armenia. The spelling system has NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING to do with the grammar of EA. Someone get me a tranquilizer...kriz bidi antsnim...

which implied means, it is BS, i am not from another planet, as it may seem that way to people who havent been told the truth to their face (che-ka and diar), and i read your posts and thats exactly what i have gotten from you

Just because that's what your delusional brain got from what I said doesn't mean that that is what I actually wrote. You have once again proven that you cannot read critically.

you said "EA is not incomplete, but it doesnt have authentic spelling and grammer"

Find that quote.

come on... you can see the illogic there... or when you said "WA overclaim their armenianness becuase they were descendents of the survivors of the genocide, and that they lived in other countries" the second part i totally get, and never said anything about but BUT BUT! when i replyed to the first part about the genocide and how we are also survivors, you "said ohh ya i know that" well if you know that then why are you stating that as an exclusive trait of the WA. you dont directly say its exlusive, but the fact that you say it and follow it with an "ohh ya of course" means you did know it, but you didnt want to face truth, and you did only when i pointed it out to you, in extra nice terms...

*sigh* I just...I don't know anymore. I laid this out nice and clearly for you last week. Just because I say "Americans are nice because they live in a big country and because they are capitalists" it doesn't mean that people from other countries aren't from a big country or aren't capitalists. Similarly, just because I said Western Armenians overclaim their Armenianness because they were descendants of the Genocide and because they have lived outside the homeland doesn't mean that no other Armenians were desendants of the Genocide or that no other Armenians live outside the homeland. It doesn't make them "exclusive" traits of WAs; it merely tells the REASONS that WAs "overclaim" Armenianness. Once again, you seem to have trouble with critical reading.

As for the rest of your ramblings, I won't bother with them, as they are all "arguments" based on misconceived and false premises. Good day, hon!

[Che_Ka]

Catwoman: Thank you! The reason Dants and I are posting those very "fob" Western Armenian comments here is because they directly relate to the topic of the thread. I'm glad somebody got the idea! lol

Hey, no offense taken. All of those Beirutsis are Halebtsis in truth and at heart. lol

[nunechka]

you two are nothing more then pathetic loosers as far as i am concerned... considering the fact that you have done nothing but put me down for accepting my armenian and loving my language...

by the fact that all of your posts attack me on a personal basis, should tell you that i am only defending myself and my country from poeple like you who think that a dialect is a language... wake up and smell that coffee and yes maybe you do need a tranqualizer... in armenia there are MANY! accents and dialects, but in school we are taught armenian the proper way... there is no such thing as soviet spelling or whatever that means... you can say it as much as you want, it is because of ignorance why this type of thinking still goes on... YOU wish you were taught ABOVIAN type of armenian... you are not... WA is not exactly how ABOVIAN wrote.

anywho, i wrote that post as a "shaking hands" post, but that is not good enough for the BIG headed WA che-ka and diar....

I will never back down and give into any of your BS, i think that armenians that do that are stupid, they are missing the point, that a dialect can be very different from the actual literary language, and for example i have a Yerevantsi accent... and another person from my family who is not from Yerevan, does not speak the same way, but we were all taught the same thing in school...

the reason why, for example, i can understand all of WA writing and speaking, etc... is because we were taught all of armenian not just one part... the Armenian that is taught in Armenia is full and complete, I have the best of both worlds because my education didnt limit me like yours did. like you said "i never heard EA until i was invited to a friends b-party", etc...

so what, i had never heard it either, but i didnt have a problem switching to what i was taught in school in armenia to help me understand... that is the DIFFERENCE between WA schools and EA schools... do you see my point?

EA - teach ALL
WA - teach only WA

anywho, like i said, i tried to compile your posts, and you did say it, it was either your first response or your second response... i am not going to do it because i have a life... it was taking too long, everything was too important to cut out, and the post would've been a whole page long...

you should not blame me for your memory loss, just go and reread some of the things you said... but this time pretend you cannot read your mind, or more like, put yourself in another persons shoes reading your posts, because i sure as hell cant read your mind, and i can only read your posts... here is an example (completly not related to this post) of what inferring or reading someons mind means...

person 1: I am 6 feet and 3 inches tall and you are 5 feet and 4 inches tall

- what can we infer from this: that person 1 is taller then the other person. right? it isnt directly said, but we can tell from the text.
- how you expected me to read your mind: you wanted me to know that person 1 was german and the other person was japanese and so thats why person 1 is taller. but i couldnt know that if you didnt write it...

that is how simple a conversation is, i am not going to think you have the best intentions, or any intentions at all, after all you are calling me names and then expecting me to respect you? thats crazy... dont insult me and i wont insult you back.

another pattern that i have notice from che-ka posts is that in almost every one of your posts, you have gone back and edited your post... what is it my dear, what are you afraid of saying to me? PM me about it... tell me what it is...

[Baron Dants]

Nune...maybe you should do some research about the topic of "Soviet spelling". Ever heard of Hrachya Ajarian?

While you're at it, also conduct a research about the birth of the grammatical rules of both Eastern and Western Armenian. Western Armenian is not only a regional dialect. It has its own set of established rules and everything.



On the other hand, why do I still bother? You're just going to call me an idiot now anyways, right?


By the way, I still don't know what you're talking about when you say that the Armenian you learn is complete, while ours is incomplete. I've had no problem with Eastern Armenian in my life.

[nunechka]

look diar, the fact is that when WA were first faced with not understanding EA, they made up this BS, and fed it to you... everyday they did it more and more, and now finaly there is this belief that there exists something as ridiculas as this...

all of this is useless... there is no reason for you to continue this faslehood... i am thru with this topic and your incoherent brain...

no no, the fact is that you have called me those names first and i just hand them back to you...

maybe you are the first person on this planet who is WA and can comprehend EA as well as any EA person... I HAVE NEVER met a WA person who did... congrats you are the first person...

while most of my friends have been WA, they needed me to translate my armenian for them, i speak very clearly, i dont studder, or slurr, they just didnt know what the words for cerntain things were in armenian, even though they had been going to armenian school here... i had to teach them... and they had no problem after that, as a matter of fact they learn certain proper armenian vocabulary from me... and i learned some from them... i was never exposed to it, but when i found out i didnt lash out at them, like you are lashing out at me... i learned and moved on... get me wrong, they didnt lash out at me either, IT IS YOU TWO! who have the attitude problem...

I am going to write this out one more time for those who are as slow as diar
in ARMENIA! they teach all ARMENIAN!
in WA schools in the US, etc... ONLY teach WA.

HENCE the misunderstandings and incomprehention of the EA dialect, written and spoken vocabulary, spelling, etc...

DO YOU UNDERSTAND ENGLISH? ok, now if you didnt quite get what that means, i am saying that in ARMENIA! they teach a type of ARMENIAN in school that allows armenians students to UNDERSTAND, READ AND WRITE ALL forms of ARMENIAN! but in WA schools, in the US, etc... THEY ONLY TEACH WA...

HENCE I UNDERSTAND WA CLEARLY, But WAs dont understand EA clearly...

maybe you should back off, and read my posts...

again for those that are extra slow like diar - IN ARMENIA! they TEACH ARMENIAN! that is COMPLETE! because they dont just teach a dialect! OK! they teach ARMENIAN in its complete form! they teach us WA, EA, SA, NA [which dont exist, but im saying for exaggeration/emphasis] ... OK!?!?!?!?!?!? SO! since the WA schools dont do that, and not only do they not do that, they "translate" armenian into WA.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME? do you need me to slow it down even more?

[nunechka]

i got another one:

"yepel, tapel" literaly it means to cook and to through away, however it is used often in a sexist manner to ask the parents of the bride to be if their daughter is good around the house, so they say "Dzer aghchikeh yepel tapel gidi?"

even though it is used that way, i say we should make it an effort to ask about the male counter part... "isk dzer dghan yepel tapel gidi?, te minan udel khosal gidi?" LOL!

(for those who cannot read armenian: i said the same thing but asked about the son, and then i added, or does he only know how to eat and talk?)

[nunechka]

Yet another one:

"kare pexxxxset tapetsir?" means "did you get rid of the rocks off your lap (usually skirt etc..) which is said to mean "are you finally giving in?"

my mother was telling me about my brother and his wife and how they were having a fight, and that my brother finally stopped fighting with her and they went to visit her parents because he wanted to "make it up to her," so my mom said to my brother "kare pexxxxset tapir?" meaning so you finally got rid of your attitude... lol


unless someone can explain it better, please do so, but thats the best i can do...

[Baron Dants]

One of the best proverbs in Armenian..

"Shoone ge haché, karavane ge kalé"