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  • #101
    Meh...

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    • #102
      I wasn't talking about assimilating with the foreign nations as you stated. (Although they are more now, because of the economic situation in Armenia, girls from poor families marrying Arabs, Iranians etc)
      What I was talking about when I said westernized, was couples living together before marriage. But I guess they are so pure in Armenia that they only hold hands at night until they get married.

      And what part of the culture is untouched in Armenia? Some Armenians who moved out of Armenia have kept their culture alive more than most currently living in Armenia

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      • #103
        Originally posted by Crissy
        If anyone has misunderstood your point (which I much doubt) it's because your points are not very clear.
        No, im not unclear. Most people are just emotionally driven rather than logically when it comes to this issue. Their own personal life conflicts with my ideaology so they defend it with their last brain cell. Its selfish. Most Armenian women who oppose my ideas are honestly defending themselves more than anything else.

        Just like the non-Armenian spouses of Armenians who say "love is for everyone, and everybody should have the right to get married." True, they should, but I think thats a bit selfish considering that belief is going to (and already has) led the Armenian people into a almost extinct race. I understand, its human nature. Illogical, but human.

        I'm sorry if I come off arrogant, but I have yet to say something untrue.

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        • #104
          We're not a race, we're an ethnic group.

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          • #105
            Originally posted by ace
            The elders that I respect, appearently, would think your a very bad role model for the Armenian youth (or for me). They'd probably say somethin like "Mer myreri yev kerer serpootsune petka pashpanenk" or some xxxx like that. Respect your elders chrissy...
            Shat kneres, baits mer mayreri yev kuyreri serputyune pahelu hamar, hargank petke tsuts tak. Hargir vor hargves. Yev asa xndrumem, vontses serptuyune pahpanum yerb vor grumes (about what you did to some girl and boasting about it like it's something to be proud of).

            I respect those who respect me.

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            • #106
              Originally posted by Crissy
              I wasn't talking about assimilating with the foreign nations as you stated. (Although they are more now, because of the economic situation in Armenia, girls from poor families marrying Arabs, Iranians etc)
              What I was talking about when I said westernized, was couples living together before marriage. But I guess they are so pure in Armenia that they only hold hands at night until they get married.
              Couples living together before marriage? In Armenia? Kind of hard considering its hard to live period.

              Originally posted by Crissy
              And what part of the culture is untouched in Armenia? Some Armenians who moved out of Armenia have kept their culture alive more than most currently living in Armenia
              And some armenians in Armenia show complete disrespect towards our culture. Whats ur point?

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              • #107
                Originally posted by Crissy
                Shat kneres, baits mer mayreri yev kuyreri serputyune pahelu hamar, hargank petke tsuts tak. Hargir vor hargves. Yev asa xndrumem, vontses serptuyune pahpanum yerb vor grumes (about what you did to some girl and boasting about it like it's something to be proud of).
                Thats funny, I said "I wasn't actually proud of it" RIGHT AFTER I SAID THAT. Weird. Neway yah i dont exactly get how we're suppose to "pashpanenk mer myrer yev kereri serpoutsune" when my grandma says it...I dunno if shes talking about abstinence or just in general. Gotta love grandma for that tolma though.

                Originally posted by Crissy
                I respect those who respect me.
                So why'd you say 'respect your elders.' According to you, obviously just cause ur an elder doesn't mean u deserve respect.

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                • #108
                  Originally posted by ace
                  No, im not unclear. Most people are just emotionally driven rather than logically when it comes to this issue. Their own personal life conflicts with my ideaology so they defend it with their last brain cell. Its selfish. Most Armenian women who oppose my ideas are honestly defending themselves more than anything else.

                  Just like the non-Armenian spouses of Armenians who say "love is for everyone, and everybody should have the right to get married." True, they should, but I think thats a bit selfish considering that belief is going to (and already has) led the Armenian people into a almost extinct race. I understand, its human nature. Illogical, but human.

                  I'm sorry if I come off arrogant, but I have yet to say something untrue.
                  In regards to marriage with "Otars". I believe it all comes from the Armenian spouse. They have the choice to raise her family as Armenians. Those that don't probably got fed up with negativity from those around them. Accept them and see the difference. Some of my friends have married non-Armenians, they're spouses are learning Armenian, their kids speak Armenian, they go to the same church have the same beliefs. They keep the culture alive. This is from what I've seen.

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                  • #109
                    Originally posted by ace
                    Couples living together before marriage? In Armenia? Kind of hard considering its hard to live period.



                    And some armenians in Armenia show complete disrespect towards our culture. Whats ur point?
                    Yes couples living together before marriage, In Armenia. Maybe you should visit and see for yourself.

                    My pint is, you keep saying how The Armenians in the republic are the last of our ORIGINAL AND UNIQUE culture.
                    I am just trying to tell you it's not the case, not for everyone.

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                    • #110
                      Originally posted by Crissy
                      In regards to marriage with "Otars". I believe it all comes from the Armenian spouse. They have the choice to raise her family as Armenians. Those that don't probably got fed up with negativity from those around them. Accept them and see the difference. Some of my friends have married non-Armenians, they're spouses are learning Armenian, their kids speak Armenian, they go to the same church have the same beliefs. They keep the culture alive. This is from what I've seen.
                      I understand that, completly, and in all honesty that has no evil in it wat so ever.

                      But theres a big difference between the ACKNOWLEDGEMENT of your people, and caring about your people.

                      Criss jan, if we all got married to otars, and spread the ideas of our culture. Yah, sure, let the whole world know about it...let them see how great of a people we've been...but whats any of that worth, when theirs no full blooded armenians left? Do you really agree with the fact that aslong as people acknowledge our culture thats we've done our job in the preservence or our people? We've come to long fighting to let our people die in the midst of all this freedom we have.

                      Assyrians anybody?

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