Should Armenian women stay Pure for marriage?

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Re: Should Armenian women stay Pure for marriage?

The lack of fairness - at least symmetry - in what you consider as a possible "solution" of some of the social issues of Modern Society would allow many to abuse it and use it in order to justify their tendencies to control either their sisters or female partners; men are notorious for such practices. Such practices are seldom based on logical grounds.
Also, the lack of clarity in the roles and lack of logic in their - i.e. roles - justification will probably open room for different interpretations and promote unfair practices towards women.

If your concerns are as noble as you pretend, then why don't you suggest an alternative solution? How about if we reversed the roles and situations i.e.
- There will be male prostitutes, instead of female
- Male virginity will be enforced, but women may have pre-marital sex
- Males who lose their virginity will be vilipended

Your implying that I directly blamed social problems on the abstinance of a societies women. I'm not going to explain myself again. This'll be like the 50th time.

You have made irrational and illogical (and the way I see it, hateful) accusations of Armenians (mainly Armenian guys) and how my ideas would make us behave. Why? Because you have no understanding of our people and our history. You have described everything but the Armenians (or atleast the ones in the Republic)

This is not a people obsessed with controlling its female population, naturally, it has nothing more than complete respect for its wives, sisters, and mothers. Evidence of respect?

Armenian society has virtually no problems of date rap, sexual herrassment, it does not expect a woman to have a D-cup for her to be considered attractive. A woman's intellectual side is even more respected than her looks, she is not looked upon as ONLY a sexual figure. She is expected to be intellectual, loving, and caring before she is expected to be "hott." She is celebrated because of her courage and strenght and her ability to one day take care of her family (REGARDLESS OF AGE) rather than her ability to swallow a 10 inch d!ck. UNLIKE SOME PLACES I KNOW. You dont think thats respect and equality (Actually, it kind of puts her on a higher level than all other women)?

Only the blind, arrogant, d!ckhead would assume this is a tool used by men to degrade and weaken women. On the contrary, she is more valued.

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Re: Should Armenian women stay Pure for marriage?

Please tell us "what people say about armenians?????"






Are you sure that the rock you're under is not the bigger one???

Maybe he lives in Glendale, those Glendale Armo thugs are completly xxxxing up the view others have on Armenians. Half of Glendale prisons are Armenian teens. They need to get their acts together.

[Otto3]

Re: Should Armenian women stay Pure for marriage?

conservative noobs... hi grandpa

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Your people have caused the inevitable extinction (or close to it) of the Armenian people. Approximatly 80% of our race has roots and lives outside of the Republic because of your ancestors actions. 80% of our race is surrounded by a foreign culture and people, and is inevitably assimilating into them. Becoming more like the people that live there, rather than Armenians. Please leave any preservation of our race, traditions, and idealogies to us. This is about Armenian women, the Armenian culture, and Armenian people. You ultimately do not care about what happens to us, therefore, you should leave this issue to us, you shared your thoughts plenty enough. please. Stfu.

[Siamanto]

Re: Should Armenian women stay Pure for marriage?

Your implying that I directly blamed social problems on the abstinance of a societies women. I'm not going to explain myself again. This'll be like the 50th time.

No, I did not imply that you "directly blamed social problems on the abstinance of a societies women." You assume more than you should and you are too confident of your assumptions.
Also, instead of repeating yourself, please try to answer to what is said/asked in the post. We have understood your - very common - point of view and we've heard it many many times in our life. Disagreeing does not necessarily mean misunderstanding, and repeating yourself will not make your points more convincing.

Repeating yourself seems to be a convenient way of eluding answers, answers to questions I've asked. If you are looking forward for a dialogue, please make an attempt to consider and answer questions you're asked. No need for a monologue.

You have made irrational and illogical (and the way I see it, hateful) accusations of Armenians (mainly Armenian guys) and how my ideas would make us behave. Why? Because you have no understanding of our people and our history. You have described everything but the Armenians (or atleast the ones in the Republic)

Armenian does not necessarily mean "Soviet" Armenian. I know the different Armenian communities much better than you may think and those accusations are justified. They also apply to non-Armenian men.

This is not a people obsessed with controlling its female population, naturally, it has nothing more than complete respect for its wives, sisters, and mothers. Evidence of respect?

Maybe it's not an "obsession with controlling its female population" but Armenian women are far more oppressed than they should be - at least, in some regards.

Armenian society has virtually no problems of date rap, sexual herrassment, it does not expect a woman to have a D-cup for her to be considered attractive. A woman's intellectual side is even more respected than her looks, she is not looked upon as ONLY a sexual figure. She is expected to be intellectual, loving, and caring before she is expected to be "hott." She is celebrated because of her courage and strenght and her ability to one day take care of her family (REGARDLESS OF AGE) rather than her ability to swallow a 10 inch d!ck. UNLIKE SOME PLACES I KNOW. You dont think thats respect and equality (Actually, it kind of puts her on a higher level than all other women)?

There is a lot of truth in the above; nevertheless, Armenian women remains mistreated and Armenian men can be oppressive. I've known of many ugly cases.

Only the blind, arrogant, d!ckhead would assume this is a tool used by men to degrade and weaken women. On the contrary, she is more valued.

I did not say "this is," I said "this can be abused, interpreted etc..." The difference is considerable.

Please read carefully and try to control you "male" temper! Thanks!

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In other words, what gave you the impression that I "don't agree..."

I have no xxxxing idea...that xxxx was like 2-3 weeks ago. I dont even remember what exactly we were talking about. Is that really THAT important to what we are discussing though? Whats your point? You do AGREE with that statement and I was wrong in making that judgement?

[ace]

Re: Should Armenian women stay Pure for marriage?

No, I did not imply that you "directly blamed social problems on the abstinance of a societies women." You assume more than you should and you are too confident of your assumptions.
Also, instead of repeating yourself, please try to answer to what is said/asked in the post. We have understood your - very common - point of view and we've heard it many many times in our life. Disagreeing does not necessarily mean misunderstanding, and repeating yourself will not make your points more convincing.

Repeating yourself seems to be a convenient way of eluding answers, answers to questions I've asked. If you are looking forward for a dialogue, please make an attempt to consider and answer questions you're asked. No need for a monologue.





Armenian does not necessarily mean "Soviet" Armenian. I know the different Armenian communities much better than you may think and those accusations are justified. They also apply to non-Armenian men.






Maybe it's not an "obsession with controlling its female population" but Armenian women are far more oppressed than they should be - at least, in some regards.






There is a lot of truth in the above; nevertheless, Armenian women remains mistreated and Armenian men can be oppressive. I've known of many ugly cases.






I did not say "this is," I said "this can be abused, interpreted etc..." The difference is considerable.

Please read carefully and try to control you "male" temper! Thanks!

I dont get you...so you think that a woman sexually devoting herself to one man her entire life is a good thing?

[ace]

Re: Should Armenian women stay Pure for marriage?

There is a lot of truth in the above; nevertheless, Armenian women remains mistreated and Armenian men can be oppressive. I've known of many ugly cases.

Women are opressed and disrespected by men everywhere. All men can be oppresive. Though less in Armenia. And my ideology only promotes further respect of our women. We just thoroughly discussed this and you agreed with it.

[Siamanto]

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I dont get you...so you think that a woman sexually devoting herself to one man her entire life is a good thing?

Why do you elude questions with other questions? I don't see a dialogue.
When did I say anything about the above?

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Should Armenian women stay Pure for marriage?

Your people have caused the inevitable extinction (or close to it) of the Armenian people. Approximatly 80% of our race has roots and lives outside of the Republic because of your ancestors actions. 80% of our race is surrounded by a foreign culture and people, and is inevitably assimilating into them. Becoming more like the people that live there, rather than Armenians. Please leave any preservation of our race, traditions, and idealogies to us. This is about Armenian women, the Armenian culture, and Armenian people. You ultimately do not care about what happens to us, therefore, you should leave this issue to us, you shared your thoughts plenty enough. please. Stfu.

Or, using the standard excuse of every dictatorship when confronted by investigations into its abuses, "this is an internal matter".

Of course a lot of what goes on inside Armenian society is there as a result of specific historical events - but that is not really a legitimate reason why these things should not be explored or commented upon by non-Armenians. And other cultures / societies / ethnic groups / nations have similar problems and dilemmas and tensions, I think. So we can learn from each other.

Otto, from at least one member here, you are welcome to make whatever comments you want wherever you want, providing that they have some value. Though maybe you should cool down your use of irony a bit.