Armenian White Nationalism

[Hate_Sheep]

Re: Armenian White Nationalism

Actually after reading your last few posts, I am glad R-mean has a much wider forum to represent Armenians then you do. In fact as moronic as some of those other Armenian gangsta wannabes are, I still rather have them represent Armenians then you. Thank god all you have is this board, because I find you to be an embrassment, and actually hurtful to our people.
I dont completely disagree with what you said, I agree that hate is part of humanity, but that doesnt make it right. I also agree that to some extent everyone is racist, but you just take it way to far. I also don't understand about this whole pro racist white BS, you display, when there is so much discreptancy and controversy about it. Even for arguements sake, lets just say we are "white". We still are not viewed the same as the other "whites". In many cases we would be viewed no different then, lets say a mexican. So why be so pro white, and racist towards non whites, for a race that is not fully accepting of us, regardless of whether we feel we are white or not.
You do also realise that there is only about 8 million of us left in the world. If everyone had this way of thinking, guess what, a lot of other races may view us, as inferior also. What makes you so sure, that a lot of people do not view us, in the same light you view a mexican, asian or black?

On another note, I was proud of Karo Parisyan representing us today in the Ultimate Fighting Championship. He won his fight today, and used his interview time, to mention the Armenian genocide during his post fight interview.
All I gotta say to you mouse is thank god, you cant rap, sing, compose symphanies or fight, so the world doesnt see how ignorant some Armenians may be. It is better that Armenians like you just vent on these boards, so you just remain our dirty little secret

[Hate_Sheep]

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I was just curious mouse, you made reference to religion in one of your posts, do you consider yourself Christian, just curious?

[Hate_Sheep]

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This question is for hatesheep and jgk3. Would you be in support of large scale immigration of Non-Armenians to Armenia? Let's say to the diversity equivalence of France?

To be honest no I wouldn't, and I think I know where you might be going with this question. If I have to, I might defend my answer later.

[Anonymouse]

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Actually after reading your last few posts, I am glad R-mean has a much wider forum to represent Armenians then you do. In fact as moronic as some of those other Armenian gangsta wannabes are, I still rather have them represent Armenians then you. Thank god all you have is this board, because I find you to be an embrassment, and actually hurtful to our people.

Actually I find you below embarassment. In fact, embarassment would be an improvement for you.

I dont completely disagree with what you said, I agree that hate is part of humanity, but that doesnt make it right. I also agree that to some extent everyone is racist, but you just take it way to far. I also don't understand about this whole pro racist white BS, you display, when there is so much discreptancy and controversy about it. Even for arguements sake, lets just say we are "white". We still are not viewed the same as the other "whites". In many cases we would be viewed no different then, lets say a mexican. So why be so pro white, and racist towards non whites, for a race that is not fully accepting of us, regardless of whether we feel we are white or not.

Who said anything about "pro racist white BS"? This is simply yet another example of you having more nonsense that you pull out of your ass than a magician out of his top hat. Your denial and ignorance of common sense speaks volumes that would fill the halls of Congress. Who cares what others "view us as"? Your problem here, as in earlier, you care what others think of you, in this instance what odars think and earlier of what I thought since you are so easily perturbed. There is a difference between seeing and observing "oh we are white", and "oh they hate us". Who cares if someone hates me or my people?

You do also realise that there is only about 8 million of us left in the world. If everyone had this way of thinking, guess what, a lot of other races may view us, as inferior also. What makes you so sure, that a lot of people do not view us, in the same light you view a mexican, asian or black?

Actually, I'd say about 7 million, but who's counting? I am more pro-Armenian than you realize at face value and perhaps more pro-Armenian than you can ever be. And how do I view Mexicans or Asians or Blacks? I readily recognize that in order to survive as Armenians, and keep that 6 or 7 million figure and possibly grow, Armenians cannot afford to mix. Yet, do you know what occurs? Armenians already have low birthrates. On top of that, they are steadily intermarrying and diluting.

Only in this perverted and inverted age can someone mistake the self-preservation of ones people and race as "racism", or "hate". But such Orwellian inversions occur since you have heard this nonsense since birth from every orifice of communication. At present the only people preoccupied with this notion that you reside with are Westerners. Only whites whether British or Armenians believe in this guff from diversity to "we ar all equal".

Here is a history lesson. After World War II, America occupied Japan. During that occupation the American forces were segregated between blacks and whites. Many of the black soldiers had apparently engaged in sexual activity with Japanese women and thereby impregnated them.

The Japanese, being racially and culturally conscious decided this foreign element in their blood was untolerable. Do you know what they did? They bundled up these women and their babies and they shipped them off to Brazil. In Japan, you cannot become "Japanese" simply by eating sushi and wearing a kimono. You are born Japanese as it has a fixed racial and ethnic connotation. By your standards, and indeed by the standards of multiculturalism today, I guess the Japanese were "hateful" and "racist". Even now, from China to the Koreas to Japan, Asia remains very homogenous racially and culturally. They do not believe in nor buy the nonsense of multiculturalism or diversity. They realize that culture is tied to blood and not the other way around. That is why China in particular and Asia will be the next epicenter of power as the West gradually declines due to its enervated youth, its low birthrates and its cultural and racial dilution. That is the way it goes and Armenians stand to lose the most in this.

On another note, I was proud of Karo Parisyan representing us today in the Ultimate Fighting Championship. He won his fight today, and used his interview time, to mention the Armenian genocide during his post fight interview.

I've been watching UFC since probably before you even know about it and you certainly weren't the only one who watched tonight's event.

All I gotta say to you mouse is thank god, you cant rap, sing, compose symphanies or fight, so the world doesnt see how ignorant some Armenians may be. It is better that Armenians like you just vent on these boards, so you just remain our dirty little secret

Apparently a "little secret" that has effectively hit a quivering nerve. Now how about you show where I am ignorant? Can you please offer evidence as to what my 'ignorance' is?

[Anonymouse]

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I was just curious mouse, you made reference to religion in one of your posts, do you consider yourself Christian, just curious?

I am Christian culturally (but otherwise religious/spiritual) as that has been part of the Armenian cultural make up. Let me guess, you now argue that my views are "unChristian"? You are more predictable than a heroin addict.

[Anonymouse]

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So that was your whole goal here? Well done, my friend.

Regarding, 'what is racist,' how about you first tell me what 'race' means to you. What is 'white?'

Powder (movie)
Powder [an ALBINO man]: And then its possible to talk to someone without any lies. With no sarcasms, no deceptions, no exaggerations, or any of the other things people use to confuse the truth.

I refer the reader to the Race thread.

[Hate_Sheep]

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Actually nope I dont care what you think of me, I'd rather you not think of me at all.

Interesting unless there was a UFC 0, then you probably have not been watchin UFC longer then i have . I saw the very 1st UFC where it was Royce Gracie vs Shamrock in the finals. I think maybe you started watching from UFC 3, and that was just a rental from block buster, 2 years after it took place.

[skhara]

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I have certain problems with the so-called "white nationalism". There are not consistencies. They don't really define anything.

I think Armenian issues, Armenian Nationalism is not really in line with American "white nationalists", or canadian "white nationalists". Some of their typical attitudes is that "white looking" Armenians and whoever else need to assimilate in the American or whatnot "culture", and no 'dual-loyalties', which I can understand.

When I see the postings of Greeks, Bulgarians, Serbs, etc.. at that site, I don't really notice anything of "white nationalist" context. They mostly express their local nationalisms. And fact is, just like the Armenians.

The Balkan folks and some Western Europeans appear to be more interested in Armenian issues. There is a common enemy that facilitates this in turks. American "white nationalists" couldn't care less about turks, but there are issues with xxxs' grasp on America and starting wars not of American interests in the Middle East.

Anyway, I could keep ranting, but I'll cut it off.

[jgk3]

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This question is for hatesheep and jgk3. Would you be in support of large scale immigration of Non-Armenians to Armenia? Let's say to the diversity equivalence of France?

Pfft, what can I say? We've experienced this already with Kurds for example. We've witnessed the total destruction of our culture in Anatolia at the hands of the "dirty hand of the turks" (Kurds).

Kurds were much poorer than Armenians, so they worked to get their hands on our wealth. Immigrants often work the same way. Why would you immigrate if you were prosperous?

So of course I'll say no to that. Amenians have bled enough to aquire the little nation they have left. I don't see how this issue is tied into the discussion.

[dsarkasian]

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Pfft, what can I say? We've experienced this already with Kurds for example. We've witnessed the total destruction of our culture in Anatolia at the hands of the "dirty hand of the turks" (Kurds).

Kurds were much poorer than Armenians, so they worked to get their hands on our wealth. Immigrants often work the same way. Why would you immigrate if you were prosperous?

So of course I'll say no to that. Amenians have bled enough to aquire the little nation they have left. I don't see how this issue is tied into the discussion.

The question was hypothetical. I'm in agreement with your answer.