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Diaspora: Does it have a future?

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  • #71
    Re: Diaspora: Does it have a future?

    Originally posted by Fedayeen
    When last time i was in Armenia in 99-2000...it was a hell...the moment we entered Armenia from Georgian-Armenian border to the moment we took off from airport to Amsterdam

    As you said Gazan, we should learn to use weapons, our nation has lots of nasty animals...i bet not much has changed since 2000.

    If your not ready to do some cleaning work, don't even think about going back unless you have money growing tree
    I know what you mean by "hell". But don't be discouraged by that too much. Some officials there tried to give me hard time too (and I'm Hayastantsi) but unfortunately for them I knew people who were above them, so they left me alone. And, Fedayeen, if you live there then you will know people too, people that could be useful for you one day. Thats how things work everywhere not just in Hayastan. As the saying goes: It's not what you know, it's who you know.

    With regards to the weapons: The only way we will ever be able to return our stolen lands is by use of weapons, regardless of what type of weapons whether chemical, biological, nuclear or conventional, the weapons are our only way! That's why when you live in Spyurq and you are young, you should study chemistry, biology, engineering etc. at their top class universities, or at least spend some time inside their Army and Air Force.

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    • #72
      Re: Diaspora: Does it have a future?

      I agree with you completely

      Oh i lived there for many many years...i was born in Echmiadzin...its just that the things i have seen experienced...from my 'own' people...they have 0 mercy

      But can't really blame them either...what have they seen in life? absolutely nothing...but when a Chechen treats 100 times better then my own...that starts to piss me off

      And i would not be surprised if those same people listen to nothing but turkish music...even here in Glendale, CA i was blown away at how many 'Armenians" bump turkish music in their $100,000 cars...don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with that...right?

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      • #73
        Re: Diaspora: Does it have a future?

        I'm very happy for you but you have to stop being so angsty and ill-tempered Gazan.

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        • #74
          Re: Diaspora: Does it have a future?

          Originally posted by TomServo
          I'm very happy for you but you have to stop being so angsty and ill-tempered Gazan.
          pssst... {whispers} I don't think he saw that comment of yours yet...

          I suggest you start running NOW!!!

          Մեր ժողովուրդն արանց հայրենասիրութեան այն է, ինչ որ մի մարմին' առանց հոգու:

          Նժդեհ


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          • #75
            Re: Diaspora: Does it have a future?

            Originally posted by Gazan
            Armenian I congratulate you on your decision to move to Armenia, that's whats called putting the money where the mouth is. Bravo, enker.
            I have made the decision to cure cancer and end world hunger in the next ten years. Will you congratulate me too on my decision? Does it mean I have put my money where my mouth is?
            this post = teh win.

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            • #76
              Re: Diaspora: Does it have a future?

              Originally posted by Sip
              I have made the decision to cure cancer and end world hunger in the next ten years. Will you congratulate me too on my decision? Does it mean I have put my money where my mouth is?
              You're a fool.

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              • #77
                Re: Diaspora: Does it have a future?

                Originally posted by ace
                You're a fool.
                You missed the point
                this post = teh win.

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                • #78
                  Re: Diaspora: Does it have a future?

                  Originally posted by Gazan
                  Armenian I congratulate you on your decision to move to Armenia, that's whats called putting the money where the mouth is. Bravo, enker.
                  Mersi @nker, I am already searching for real estate either in Yerevan's 'gentron,' or Nork or Garni.

                  But I don't agree with "milking the diaspora" theory. We don't want your money, we want YOU.
                  The Diaspora should be the Cash Cow, there is nothing wrong with that. The DIaspora is obviously also a good lobbying tool for Armenia. However, trust me Gazan jan, you "don't" want all of "us" there. Most Diaspora Armenians would be a liability for Armenia, just look at individuals like Sip, among others

                  We want you and your family living in Armenia. Maybe start with six month in Armenian, six month in Diaspora then move to Armenian permanently in a few years time.
                  I spend all my free time and money there already. I say I will move in ten years because I first have to become financially independent before I make that big move. And most of my closest friends are Yerevantsis.

                  We specially don't want any "political" investments, which are so common in the west. I mean, we don't want people putting money in our economy on political conditions. If they want to bring changes to the government and it's policies then they should be part of the country and vote or get elected themselfs.
                  I fully agree. But that is an inherent danger when you take money from anyone.
                  Մեր ժողովուրդն արանց հայրենասիրութեան այն է, ինչ որ մի մարմին' առանց հոգու:

                  Նժդեհ


                  Please visit me at my Heralding the Rise of Russia blog: http://theriseofrussia.blogspot.com/

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                  • #79
                    Re: Diaspora: Does it have a future?

                    Originally posted by Sip
                    You missed the point
                    No I didnt. You try to be sarcastic about everything in every thread and often times you yourself miss the point because of it. Stop.

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                    • #80
                      Re: Diaspora: Does it have a future?

                      Ok here's the non-sarcastic version to hopefully help you understand the point: "Simply saying one is going to go back to Armenia is not that hard. Anyone can do it. What we need is more action and less talk."

                      Now of course I am not saying Armenian is or is not going back to Armenia. He seems to be very passionate about the topic which is great. My point is purely in regards to getting carried away with "congratulating" each other on "decisions to do something in 10 years" rather than actually doing things. I will congratulate Armenian when he does it.

                      But Ace, you should really try to cheer up a bit and not focus too much on irrelevant things about HOW a point is made rather than what the point is. Otherwise, you'll go crazy around here ... not to mention the fact that you'll contribute in generating 4 use-less back-and-forth replies to one little comment.
                      Last edited by Sip; 02-10-2007, 01:20 PM.
                      this post = teh win.

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