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  • #51
    No Misunderstanding

    Originally posted by Vogelgrippe
    Hellektor,

    You try to legitimize your eternal hatred, and good luck to you in your efforts. I will, however, still correct your accidental, blind, or deliberate misunderstanding in my posting.
    Originally posted by Vogelgrippe
    ........
    Elendil, Cosmos

    Here the postings of Hellektor and Reincarnated Am show that they hate everything Turkish with their whole hearts, regardless of genocide recognition.Even if a mistake (??? H.) committed a century ago is corrected (When? H.), they come up with something supposedly (??? H.) done thousand years ago, and keep on hating.
    I emphasized some phrases in your post as a response to your claim that we "hate" you eternally without any reasons and then I gave you the reason why we might "hate" you or why this comes across that way. I didn't say you deny the genocide.

    Originally posted by Hellektor
    This barbarity is going on NOW! but you put your "heads" in the sand and pretend everything's OK.

    ...A barbarity of this magnitude can only breed hatred
    Originally posted by Vogelgrippe
    Your points, summarized through I to X, are not happening in Turkey anymore, and several steps are taken to correct past mistakes regarding Armenian cultural heritage in Turkey. Your refusal to understand that Azerbaijan and Azeris are separate entities, and are not part of Turkey, probably blurs your vision about this issue.
    I have posted this many times but none of you ever give a damn:

    Over 95% out of at least 2200 working Armenian churches accounted for in 1912 by patriarch Ormanian, mentioning location and even priest names, are now destroyed.

    According to a 1974 UNESCO account, from the 913 monuments still standing after the genocide 464 were totally destroyed, 252 were turned in ruins and 197 needed serious restoration.

    I am preparing a visual thread of these barbarities and you will convince yourselves that the "Azeris" learned their lesson in destruction from their older siblings.

    Originally posted by Vogelgrippe
    On the contrary, the famous church of Akdamar in Van is currently being restored by a Turkish-Armenian architect. Only last month, The Armenian Patriarch of Istanbul thanked Turkish authorities for their financial support for church restorations. The list can be extended, but your hate-filled eyes cannot see any of it.
    Too little, too late...
    Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:

    I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
    II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
    III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
    IV. They shut up and say nothing.

    [URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]

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    • #52
      Armenia - Iran

      Originally posted by Turanist
      But just before they make the weapons Israel will strike. this is reality. there is already Israel bases in Turkey. why you think the head of Israeli army come to Turkey you think he come for a joke? But no one is talking about it on internet. Iran is going to be damned to hell. They must give north Iran to the owners Azerbaijan. even Israel is aware of Azeri presence in Iran.

      Iran will fail. Turkey and Azerbaijan will share a border. if Armenia doesnt want peace in Qarabag they will have blockade all around their country except for Georgia.
      Informed and wisely spoken fellow Turanist.,

      1- The “Islamic” nuclear technology (Pakistan and Iran) is decades behind that of US or x-USSR’s. Iran can never pose a true nuclear threat, but can start exporting components for a dirty-nuclear bomb to his Islamic allies, including perhaps Azerbaijan. But, that is a low probability since Armenia and Iran have good trading relations and, as I understand, their new oil pipeline goes through Armenia.

      2- Israel does not have a Base in Turkey. The Israeli attachés which you referenced probably are Mossad
      3- Iran’s nuclear prospect is critical to Israel since when you combine
      (Iran’s >200 km range, solid fuel, Shab missile) + (nuclear technology) =

      4- Jews are like Armenians who have survived grate adversities and prospered because of their wisdom. Do you think they will even remotely submit to

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      • #53
        Turanist, it's time for you to stop getting your history from end of ze world flash cartoons.

        There are no Israeli bases in Turkey. The head of the military of Israel did not go to Turkey. The Cheif of Staff went to Turkey. (If you don't know what a Chief of Staff does, you can look it up) Israel is too busy mourning the death of Ariel Sharon and fighting Palestinians to even give a xxxx about invading Iran. Finally, there is no separtist movement in Iran.

        Iran is more stable than Azerbaijan. By treaty, Turkey and Azerbaijan have no rights to Zankezur, and I'd like to see the Turks try to wage war for it. There is peace in Artsakh, and Azerbaijan always wants to break the peace and start a war to take it back.

        News flash! War isn't as simple as you think!

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        • #54
          That "end of ze world" was very cool. Wow.. Sharon is dead? You know Jewish politicians have many lives. It was on CNN that Sharon’s health demise was attributed by some Jews to Jewish Rabi evicted from the settlement putting a hex on him?

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          • #55
            Sharon suffered a severe brain hemorrage, and while he's not exactly "dead" yet, his chances of survival are not very high, and even if he survives he will be unable to serve.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Turanist
              Azerbaijan is not ally of Iran. they are enemies. due to this reason I support a war on Iran.

              we must support Israel. it is only fair that the Jews have their own country. Iranian and her allies (Russia and Armenia) expansionist policies must be stopped.
              How could you support the Jews (Israel) and the same time support Al’Kaeda? I hear there are so many Al’Kaeda training camps in Azerbaijan, Aren’t they suppose to be enemies? You people are playing a very dangerous games. You know what can happen when you play with fire?

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              • #57
                I really do not know crap about computers and the internet that much but I have a feeling that sue, with her postings of IP numbers etc. could be up to something dirty. PLEASE DO NOT CLICK ON SUE'S CARTOONS AND LINKS. I have a fishy feeling that Kharperts account could be hacked by sue.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Reincarnated Am
                  Unlike Turkey in Armenia anyone can say whatever he or she want to say. But the role of Jews in the Armenian Genocide is known; no one can deny it, that is why Israel as a state doesn’t want to recognize the Genocide. We have nothing against Jewish people; there are so many Jewish historians and religious leaders that recognize the Armenian Genocide, our problem is with their Zionist politicians and Zionist government.

                  Yes maybe there are Al'Kaeda members in US and anywhere in the world, but not training camps.
                  so apparently you can justify racism.
                  also where is the training camp in Azerbaijan. The only camps are refugee camps. I bet there is terrorist camp in Iran
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                  Arabic is a Language, Persian is a sweetmeat, Turkish is an Art. (Old Persian proverb)

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Turanist
                    so apparently you can justify racism.
                    also where is the training camp in Azerbaijan. The only camps are refugee camps. I bet there is terrorist camp in Iran

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Turanist
                      Azerbaijan is not ally of Iran. they are enemies. due to this reason I support a war on Iran.

                      we must support Israel. it is only fair that the Jews have their own country. Iranian and her allies (Russia and Armenia) expansionist policies must be stopped.

                      Fellow Turanist,

                      1- What is your definition for an enemy? There is no dough that low life Mullahs are abomination, but Iran still is a home for allot of Armenians. Iran never committed genocide, in contrary to Turks. Iran, as far as I know, has committed no crimes against Armenians. And, Above all, Iran has a good trading relation with Armenia; their oil line goes through Armenia. So why do you consider them your enemy?

                      2- Israel will do what is in the security interest of Israel at the correct time, you bet. But, such did will mark a humiliation to Iranian regime and Mullahs know it and will never go that far.

                      3- That map by fellow "Reincarnated Am " is supper cool and factual too!



                      4- "Arabic is a Language, Persian is a sweetmeat, Turkish is an Art. (Old Persian proverb)" is a bull. A Persian who heare that will tell you, "KEER TO DAHANE TORKE BACHE GAN". As Armenian will say, "NESDI VEREN AKBER". And an Arab will say, " ALAHO AKBAR". And a Turk may say, "DAYOOD BERE BEYOOD BEGEE".

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