Chief Rabbi of Israel Recognizes the Armenian Genocide

[Gavur]

Poor UK
Turko abroad
Gavur at home
tsk tsk tsk...

[Kharpert]

[Hovik]

The Language and the Insults in this thread are getting a bit out of control, lets act mature please... that goes for everyone!

[phantom]

No me feeling sorry for Armenians is just that, I feel sorry for Armenians.

I'm a Turkish Cypriot, my family has suffered alot in the not so long ago past.

I dont understand what your trying to say but it is clearly obvious that many Turks have and are assimilating into their host nations. I may sound "nationalist" but thats because I love Turkey to dearly. But I'm British and will die British.

Armenians in their respective countries tend to stick together like a strong superglue. I have never heard of an Armenian marrying or having relations with a black person. Armenians dont assimilate with other peoples. Armenians are never Americans their always Armenian-Americans. Dont give me crap about Armenians teenagers doing drugs, girls getting pregnant because a.) what do you expect in hollywood b.) that stuff is pretty much the norm - some Turkish guy was telling me that I could easily get some ganga from Turkey and just smoke it on the beach and the police dont do a thing about it.

I dont get it Armenians stick together abroad but us Turks dont but the Armenian people and Armenia(the country) seem like the losers. Apart from the time when Armenia and her Slavic granddaddy Russia decided to beat the Azeris with a sucker punch.

I am proud of Turkeys history, its just unfortunate that we have a few stains on our shirt. In time I think those stains will be gone or cleaned if you will... but in the mean time we have a few Kurds that need to undergo Turkish "education" before they decide to embark on the full time career of separation.

I think you're begging to make us all sick with your pathetic and vile sarcasm, and your lack of self-esteem which has become increasingly apparent from your recent posts. You obviously have issues with the skyrocketing prosperity and success of Greek Cyprus while Turkish Cyprus is still one of the poorest places in Europe, in fact the world. This fact, coupled with all of the countless failures of the Turkish nation and the Turkish diaspora, obviously causes you great anxiety, leading you to lash out at others, as you have been doing here recently. Almost every word you post shows that you have no pity for anyone, except yourself, Turkey, and the Turkish diaspora. And obviously, none of us can blame you for having pity on those failed groups. But why would you pity the Armenians, particularly the diaspora Armenians, who on the one hand you accuse of having immense wealth and power, and on the other hand you supposedly feel sorry for us? Please, don't delude yourself into thinking that anyone here buys the crap you're selling. We don't!

I suggest you focus on improving your own lot in life and then help your Turkish compatriots lift themselves out of poverty and disgrace all throughout the world before you feel sorry for anyone else. By doing that, maybe you can focus on yourself and your people and stop being jealous about the success of others.

[Hovik]

Poppyxxxx. I feel sorry because for you because all the work you are doing is to no avail in terms of getting Turkey (the only country that counts) to recognise your Genocide. You dont like it when I degrade Armenia in a few posts but Armenians on this forum are doing it to Turkey and the Turkish people every day! hmmmmmmm....double standards....

I doubt it's to no avail UK. The recognition by the entire world is paramount to our cause. If other countries recognizing the Armenian Genocide isn't important then why is Turkey so pissed off about it??? Answer that...

Niether country should be unjustly degraded in this forum. You apparently are degrading Armenia to get revenge for what you see as Armenians or others degrading Turkey. Turkey has a paranoia that everyone is insulting her... get over it. You feed us the reality inside Turkey through world news and we simply post and discuss it. If it ever gets out of hand EVERYONE has been told to use the reporting utility (looks like a yield sign in the bottom left corner of a post) to send moderators a complaint about it. Don't save up your anger and blow up with a general statement about how Armenians are constantly bombarding Turks with degrading statements and how little UKTurk has only made a few (which by the way is a crappy comparison: you compare all Armenians in the forum to one Turk (yourself) instead of comparing the insults of all Turks in the forum to the insults of All Armenians in the forum) little degrading statements to Armenians. If you have a problem with someone degrading Turkey or Armenia (depending on who you are) use the report utility and tell us about it right away - that's what we're here for.

Turkish Cypriot land prices up 172% in two years

Good for Turkish Cypriots! Now if we could just get them to stop destroying, defacing, and disregarding items of Armenian and Greek cultural heritage in Northern Cyprus they'd really impress us!

[/size]What ever anyone says doesn't the fact that Armenias biggest import is foreign aid.

Actually they import a lot of Turkish products to Armenia, did you know that? Turkish products can be found everywhere being sold in the streets.

Why do you think their biggest import is foriegn aid? Could it have anything to do with the pan-Turanist blockade of the country? Armenia might not get so much aid if it wasn't needed due to Turkey and Azerbaijan's racist blockades. So before you question the aid, why don't you question the reason for it.

Anyhoo back to the topic of this thread I guess you guys are happy that the chief rabbi recognises the Armenian Genocide.

Yes, please DO stay on topic. We are happy with it. It is just another step in the direction of Israel's recognition of the Armenian Genocide.

How do you feel about the representative of the Jewish religious body of your nations strongest supporter recognizing the Armenian Genocide?

[phantom]

Poppyxxxx. I feel sorry because for you because all the work you are doing is to no avail in terms of getting Turkey (the only country that counts) to recognise your Genocide.

Rome wasn't conquered in a day. It will take ant-like persistence, something we're quite good at, to nudge Turkey into the 21st century to join the rest of humanity. And you're wrong. If it wasn't for our persistence, do you think there would have been a conference in Turkey this year where Turkish scholars discussed the Armenian Genocide, and most of them were saying that it happened? Yavas, yavas.

As for Northern Cyprus, what I said still stands. It is one of the poorest places in Europe, with a GDP/capita ($7100), which is 1/3 that of its Southern counterpart ($21000). Incidentally, Armenia has a GDP/capita of $4600, even though unlike Northern Cyprus, it has no source to open waterways, is blockaded on two sides by Turkey and Azerbaijan, and is 15 years younger than Northern Cyprus.

And yes, let's get back to the topic, which is the recognition of the Armenian Genocide by Israel's top religious figure.

[Hovik]

As for Northern Cyprus, what I said still stands. It is one of the poorest places in Europe, with a GDP/capita ($7100), which is 1/3 that of its Southern counterpart ($21000). Incidentally, Armenia has a GDP/capita of $4600, even though unlike Northern Cyprus, it has no source to open waterways, is blockaded on two sides by Turkey and Azerbaijan, and is 15 years younger than Northern Cyprus.

Fantastic points, I haven't seen these figures individually or as a comparison, interesting to know. Thanks Phantom

[1.5 million]

TurQ will now take petty digs at Greek Cypriots....some religious tolerant accepting person you are - your hatred shows through.

[TurQ]

1.5 it is not a secret how they their money comes there. Just look at the Russian banks in south CYprus it'll give you some idea. Why did Milosevic and other Serbian and Bosnian Serbian leaders choose South CYprus to hide their money? Is it the Orthodox alliance? Definetly no.

It is same for nothern Cyprus, some mafia figures opened casinos in North and they got support by Denktash's government.

I stand by my words, I think it is clear from my side the distinction of mafia/state and avarage Greek in south. If this shows you that I am discriminating /bad mouhting those south cyptiots for just they are being Greek or Christian, I have nothing more to say. May be it is your glasses not me.

TurQ will now take petty digs at Greek Cypriots....some religious tolerant accepting person you are - your hatred shows through.

[TurQ]

I remember that South Cyriot like around 10,000 dollars and North is like around 3,000 something. But Phantom's point is true that South is like 3 times higher than north. You can easily notice the difference when you walk in the streets of South and north cyprus

Yeah TurQ to be honest I would have thought that income would be in the lower than $7,000 but that article said:

Within just three years, GNP per capita in the north rose from 31.4% of the south in 2002 to 41.3% of the south in 2004. "

In a couple of years the GNP will be half that of Southern Cyprus.
Yeah you are correct in stating that Serbian b#stards kept there money in Southern Cyprus.

Phantom I think your figure for Southern Cyprus is actually the GNP of Greece.

and 1.5 what can I say apart from you just described yourself in your last post. Futhermore TurQ wasn't even talking to you the only conclusion I have to say about you is that your hatred does show through.