Dashnaks Insist On Territorial Claims To Turkey

[Kharpert]

Krunchy, it is generally agreed upon that first on our agenda is the international recognition of the Armenian Genocide, and Taner Akcam does just that. If you were to select out the entire roster of Turkish scholars, then those such as Ragip Zarakolu, Ali Ertem, Taner Akçam and Halil Berktay should serve as an example for the rest, because even if you disagree with many of their viewpoints, they are much forward-thinking than the rest.

In the future, we may need new agendas, but as of right now our primary agenda is the destruction of the Turkish denial machine, and Akcam supports that goal.

[Armenoid]

His literature presents nothing but the Turkish alternate plan that goes into effect if they are forced to recognize the Genocide. He said Armenians have no basis for land claims. I was at his lecture a while ago when he was with Dadrian and kept my distance from him and his books while certain shameless people gushed all over him giving him a good laugh all the way to the bank. I don't consider what he writes "pro-Armenian." Just Turkish Plan B. Getting ready for the inevitable. I don't think it proper to gush all over someone when they smile to your face and hide a knife behind their back. Mr. TARC himself.

Dude, your like RIGHT ON TARGET!!!

This reminds me of that "Eli Wisel" (spelling ???) character when not too long ago he made the comment: "it hurts me that Armenians and Turks can't sit down and talk..."

BOO HOO HOO, stop the theatrics coz I'm gonna puke

When I see the likes of Wisel sitting down with Nazis in order to discuss the historical accuracy of the Holocost, then I'll think about his worthless advice to us Armenians.

[1.5 million]

hahahahaha - to both of you idiots. Yeah - I am soooo afraid....give me a break - as if...and yeah - I'm going to oppose racist morons like you wherever and whenever I can. YOU are the very types who are responsible for the Armenian Genocide, the Holocaust and all of the rest. Go back to your Stormfronts and your vanguards and the like. You are a disgrace.

[Kharpert]

Armenoid: that has been my position since I joined these forums. I'm glad you agree.

[Hovik]

Hovik, I am not a racist, I could care-less what percentage "Armenian" he is.

I didn't call you a racist, did I? Although I must say this sentence, particularly the word "equate" may be a bit self-incriminating:

he seems to be set out on a task to equate Armenians with Jews

And if you could care-less what percentage "Armenian" he is, please tell us who commandeered your username and wrote this:

I was told he was, at best, 1/6 or 1/8 Armenian - the rest being most probably Jewish.

If you don't care about percentages why are you discussing in percentages his "Armenianness"?

I just want the folks here to know who they are interacting with. I was sent several links to several other forums where this person is acitve in.

Alright blood-percentage-police-officer thank you from saving us all from the suspected-possible-part-Jew 1.5million. Now we can all sleep better at night.

From what I have read, I can tell you that:

He is not an Armenian, he has a severe Turkish fetish, he fully supports TARC, he is Godless, he is anti-Serb, anti-Iranian, anti-Arab, anti-Russian, he is simply anti-everything what we Armenians need to be 'pro' about, he is constantly refering to the holocost and he is constantly bringing up jewish themes, etc.

From what I have read, you Armenoid (or DUDE, or MAN or whichever High-School vocabularly term you prefer to be called) don't have the slightest clue what Armenians need to be "pro" about. None of the above things that you accuse (without proof) 1.5 of being "pro" and "anti-***" matter in this forum.

We dont need "Jews" amongst us becasue they cannot be trusted.

WOAH cowboy, hold your little horses. Aside from the hilariousness of the fact that you (only a few lines up) say that you're "not a racist" you are borderline in violation of the forum rules. Furthermore, a little bit later in your post you talk all kinds of smack about how you have good connections in several major organizations one of which is the AAA. This is interesting, I wonder what Annie Totah would think. Mrs. Totah, who I am sure a trenched-in-player at the Assembly like yourself is well aquianted with, is the vice chair of the AAA Board of Directors, as well as the ArmenPAC co-chair, and the organizer of the AAA National Gala. She also happens to be married to one Sami Totah a very successful JEWISH heart surgeon. They have one daughter (since your OS only recognizes percentages, I'll help you with this one, she's half-Jew, half-Armenian). In addition to their massive contribution of time and efforts to advance and support the AAA, they also give massive amounts of money to it. Mrs. Totah's sister also happens to be in the upper echelons of the AGBU - another organization which you have your contacts at. Listen, I've got a great idea: Why don't you give me your real name and contact information and I'll send Mrs. Totah and her relatives, friends and colleagues at the AAA and AGBU your personal thoughts on Jews. I'll be sure to include the line "They are constantly undermining our cause by sticking their unwanted noses into our business". I am sure with everything they do for Armenians, they will appreciate your words.

This is just one family. There are many children of Jewish/Armenian mixed marriages, people who are active, productive, and (for me at least) valued members of the Armenian global community.

What about the non-Armenian-affiliated Jews out there who'd love to hear what you have to say about them. Jews like holocaust survivor and scholar Elie Wiesel, and the rest of the Jews who signed this statement addressing the Armenian Genocide. Or how about Jews like Wall Street multi-millionaire Steven Wise who helped, and chaired committees helping Armenians during the Genocide, donating vast amounts of time, money and other resources to save the nation. I wonder how they would feel upon hearing your words.

As an Armenian, I feel very ashamed and embarrassed for the things that you you have said about others. There are many Jews, Turks and other people you (obviously) despise who I value and appreciate as soldiers for our cause. I personally believe these individuals deserve even more recognition than Armenian supporters of our cause, since they sacrifice in so many different ways for us. And how do we repay them? Ignorant, immature and disgusting filth pouring from Armenian mouths about how terrible and wretched their respective races are... Nice. You should give yourself a pat on the back and be proud of yourself. You really make it easy for the most unlikely of people to help our cause.

Their closest allies are our worst enemies. They are constantly undermining our cause by sticking their unwanted noses into our business. If it were not for them, our Genocide agenda would have succeeded a long time ago - worldwide.

Would it have? Is bigotry and hatred going to help us succeed? Is shunning the people who are helping our cause going to help us succeed?

Our biggest problem and obstacle is not the Turk - its Jewish organizations.

AND DUDE, I'M ARMENIAN, I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE HOLOCOST.

Ok DUDE, tell that to Yehuda Bauer.

If I ever find out who this person is in real life I will ruin him within the Armenian community.

Yeah just by the way you post I can see your intellect and vocabulary has brought you widespread ability to "ruin" people in the Armenian community. I honestly think the worst thing you could do is get close to a person and pretend you know them, that would definately ruin any person...

I have pretty good connections within ANC, AGBU, ARF, the Diocese, the Prelacy and even the AAA. And I am not affraid to expose him in a new paper article.

Yeah like I already offered, since you are such an "exposer" and a proponent of finding out who people are in real life, why don't you tell us all who you are, give us your contact info and I'll send some of your thoughts in these posts to your "connections" at some of these Armenian Organizations (particulary our "Turks and thier lovers" at the AAA and AGBU).

Hovik, I'm not gonna tell you how to run this board, but when you guys silence the nationalistic sentiments here, you effectively allow the Turks and their lovers to run wild within this board.

Thats correct, you are NOT going to tell moderators how to run this board. However your following statement almost seems like a complaint, and as I recall, any complaints about moderators or how they run the board are not supposed to be posted in the forum, they should be PMed to the moderators for consideration. I think your idea of "nationalism" and the ideas of others are totally different. I am sure Monte Melkonian (who many agree may be the most nationalistic of Armenian nationalists of the modern day) would slap you right off your high-horse had he heard you say some of the things you have said in this forum. And finally, the only thing running wild in this board right now is your ignorance - straighten up - you're getting on a lot of peoples nerves...

[Kharpert]

I'd also like to tell our newer members that 1.5 million has been a member of these forums for six months, and has been one of the most beneficial posters in fighting denialsm and supporting the Armenian cause of these forums. To say that he's not supportive to the Armenian cause is to ignore his threads, posts, and rhetoric on these forums.

[Gavur]

There are those rumors re-AAA
which they refute
I dont know where the truth lies on this one.

[Gavur]

Hovig whats a refferal?
as some members have 1 next to them

[Hovik]

Hovig whats a refferal?
as some members have 1 next to them

Gavur jan,
Hope this helps you
Hovik

[imported_skhara]

I'd also like to tell our newer members that 1.5 million has been a member of these forums for six months, and has been one of the most beneficial posters in fighting denialsm and supporting the Armenian cause of these forums. To say that he's not supportive to the Armenian cause is to ignore his threads, posts, and rhetoric on these forums.

Kharpert, that's fine. Let him make his rhetoric, but can he possibly, if is talking about the Armenian Genocide, keep it to the Armenian Genocide -- and leave WWII out of it? And can he also keep his personal insults to himself? My reality is not the same as his. He doesn't know a dam a thing about me, and yet he throws all his insults. He doesn't know where I grew up, what my family experienced, what I've read, what I've seen and what I've perceived, how I learned, and so on. Why is he so arrogantly self-righteous, and who gives him the right to break-up civilized discourse and cause flame-wars?

I read some of your posts, and I can safely assume that my reality is outside yours as well. And yet we have not traded any insults. In fact I'm not even trading insults with him -- so far, they are just being thrown.

This is the comments of a grown-up?

hahahahaha - to both of you idiots. Yeah - I am soooo afraid....give me a break - as if...and yeah - I'm going to oppose racist morons like you wherever and whenever I can. YOU are the very types who are responsible for the Armenian Genocide, the Holocaust and all of the rest.

You are possibly 3 times his junior and yet you are infinetly more mature than he is.