Dashnaks Insist On Territorial Claims To Turkey

[Joseph]

Are you serious? I think I'm gonna go "mashugana" listening to you anti-Semites. Hey, Hitler Yungend, when was the last time you heard anyone in Turkey swear to completely destroy Armenia? When was the last time you heard Turkey claim to want to wipe Armenia off the map? What was the last time you heard anyone say they want to exterminate the Armenian race? Have you been following the blood thirsty talk coming out of Tehran? Don't you see how stupid you sound? Are you now going to tell me that Armenia is supporting the terrorist nation of Iran?

As a matter of fact, its seems to be unltra-nationalist Armenians like you who are wishing for the destruction of Turkey, the only secular-civilized-western Muslim nation on earth. And then you cry on the Armenian genocide day. You folks here nothing but little wannabe Nazis.

I think that past actions by Turks pretty well demonstrated us how they feel towards Armenians in general so I believe we have the right to be vigilant.
As you seem to be showing us here, you are concerned by Nazis or those you perceive as being Nazis or even Islamic radicals for that matter. I understand and agree with your concerns. But at the same time you seem to be implying that Armenians should ignore the danger that surrounds them and we should simply forget. How is this equitable? Tell me, are you special?

[Gavur]

Are you serious? I think I'm gonna go "mashugana" listening to you anti-Semites. Hey, Hitler Yungend, when was the last time you heard anyone in Turkey swear to completely destroy Armenia? When was the last time you heard Turkey claim to want to wipe Armenia off the map? What was the last time you heard anyone say they want to exterminate the Armenian race? Have you been following the blood thirsty talk coming out of Tehran? Don't you see how stupid you sound? Are you now going to tell me that Armenia is supporting the terrorist nation of Iran?

As a matter of fact, its seems to be unltra-nationalist Armenians like you who are wishing for the destruction of Turkey, the only secular-civilized-western Muslim nation on earth. And then you cry on the Armenian genocide day. You folks here nothing but little wannabe Nazis.

Its Turkey that wants to self destruct by not coming to terms with its past,And if Israel was their true friend they wouldnt egg them on in this Genocide which is still continuing by way of denial.
(Btw dont insult my jewish-American friends by calling them kikes)

[Kharpert]

When was the last time you heard Turkey claim to want to wipe Armenia off the map? What was the last time you heard anyone say they want to exterminate the Armenian race?

Well, excuse me!

First, to address your questions, Turkey actively tried to wipe Armenians off the map in 1915, and since that time they have more than once attempted to invade the Republic of Armenia. And the diplomatic climate hasn't changed much since. I'm surprised how your flaming ignorance prevents you from seeing the tension between these two nations when there's a WHOLE HISTORY of violence behind it. To this day, people in Eastern Turkey hate everything Armenian and would advocate the destruction of Armenians in a heartbeat. And yet here you are preaching to us about your wild speculations of reconciliation. So here's food for thought; when Armenia reconciles with Turkey, Israel will reconcile with Iran.

Oh, and now suddenly I'm anti-Semitic? After all, I only spent months trying to defend your name against racist xxxxxxxs on this site. Just because I can't agree with you on your flippant remarks doesn't give you the right to call me "Hitler". And whether you're Jewish yourself or not, you don't reserve a special right to call other Jews that don't agree with you "kikes".

What? No prayer this time?

[Joseph]

Well, excuse me!

First, to address your questions, Turkey actively tried to wipe Armenians off the map in 1915, and since that time they have more than once attempted to invade the Republic of Armenia. And the diplomatic climate hasn't changed much since. I'm surprised how your flaming ignorance prevents you from seeing the tension between these two nations when there's a WHOLE HISTORY of violence behind it. To this day, people in Eastern Turkey hate everything Armenian and would advocate the destruction of Armenians in a heartbeat. And yet here you are preaching to us about your wild speculations of reconciliation. So here's food for thought; when Armenia reconciles with Turkey, Israel will reconcile with Iran.

Oh, and now suddenly I'm anti-Semitic? After all, I only spent months trying to defend your name against racist xxxxxxxs on this site. Just because I can't agree with you on your flippant remarks doesn't give you the right to call me "Hitler". And whether you're Jewish yourself or not, you don't reserve a special right to call other Jews that don't agree with you "kikes".

What? No prayer this time?

Amen brother.

[imported_Ottoman]

Only armenians and turkish people can think safely on this problem.

[TurQ]

People of Van, Erzurum, Kars and Bitlis(The ones that I know of) hates Armenians, it is not a racial hatred but it's because what had happened in history.

You wouldnt see same reaction people from other cities(may be trabzon a bit, artvin, or Mush etc)

Turkey right now only has problems regarding to the occupation of Karabag, other than that Turkey does not have preconditions. Even today the trade over 3rd parties is close to 200million$. If Turkey had this kind of intentions, basically Turkey wouldnt allow this trade, believe me we wont be affected by this. Turkey wants to improve relations, Turkey is for the stabilty of Caucusia, likewise Balkans and middleeast. Turkey does not pursue microlevel small strategies. Stabilty is alot important for us than anything else.

Somehow Armenians think Turkey threatens Armenia or has "intentions" over Armenia. I think this is abused by diasporan politicians to motivate average Armenian to support their organizations.

If you independently compare Turkish and Armenians you would find that average Turk is a lot open minded than average Armenian in terms of ethnic relations.

Well, excuse me!

To this day, people in Eastern Turkey hate everything Armenian and would advocate the destruction of Armenians in a heartbeat. And yet here you are preaching to us about your wild speculations of reconciliation. So here's food for thought; when Armenia reconciles with Turkey, Israel will reconcile with Iran.

What? No prayer this time?

[Tongue]

David I'm seriously doubting your intentions.. you've been throwing little insults in almost every single one of your posts towards the Armenians ever since you registered on this forum. Calling us anti-semitic is one. Making baseless claims such as "Armenian is threatening Turkey" while refusing to see the actual economic blockade Turkey has put on Armenia is another. Refusing to see the active role Israel and Jewish/American lobbying groups play on denying the genocide is another.. and much much more. That type of mentality is not welcome on this forum, I apologize. So go ahead, consider me anti semetic or whatever else you'd like to lable me as. In my opinion, you're as Anti-Armenian as a Turk who portest the Armenian genocide. So there, we should be even in your head.


I'm hoping you're still gonna pray for us though.

[Kharpert]

TurQ,

My point was that politically all Armenians and Turks cannot suddenly become one happy family in an instant, which is what David-X is trying to tell us. The reasons are very complex to be resolved so instantly.

[Varouj]

After all, I only spent months trying to defend your name against racist xxxxxxxs on this site.

Doesn't speak well for you now does it? You call Armenians "racist xxxxxxxs" just because they were providing evidence that you could not dispute, evidence that you know to be true. So what were you trying to prove?

[Kharpert]

So what were you trying to prove?

I am trying to prove, dear sir, that I do NOT judge the arguments of people based on their race: Jewish, Armenian, or otherwise. And there have been plenty of Turkish and Kurdish racist xxxxxxxs that I've had the pleasure of disagreeing with, too. My point, however, is that David-X would do himself a favor to think twice before he accuses me of being bigoted.