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Pkk - terrorist organization or freedom fighters?
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Originally posted by VogelgrippeRudo,
The Turkish state has denied Kurds the right of education in their native language since the foundation of the Republic, but has not aimed at the lives of Kurds. Because of this, Kurdish intelligentsia in Turkey choose to use political & peaceful means to get more rights until early 1980s. Then, the PKK entered into the scene and brutally murdered almost all Kurdish politicians & intellectuals who wanted to use peaceful means.
In 1984, when PKK started its terroristic campaign, this process was already completed. By this time, when we probably first heard about the name PKK, they had already achieved part of their mission: They annihilated each and every Turkish Kurd who might have opposed their bloody actions.
I know all you said in the post.
Don't you think that both of them are guilty?
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Originally posted by ScythianVizierFreedom fighters do not get involved in trade of illegal drugs, and do not target civilians like PKK. For example, Che and Mandela were freedom fighters, but Ocalan (and his PKK) was/is not.
Many rebellions are funded through nefarious means. One example is the Mojaheddin movement vs. the Soviets in Afghanistan was bolstered by the opium trade.General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”
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One Conspiracy Theory ...
First Step;
PKK now tries to make Turkish and Kurdish people hate each other.
Aims No trade - no marriage - no neighbourhood between these people.
This will ease the separation.This is why PKK targets civilians on west side of Turkey.
Second Step;
When the first step is ok,More people will join PKK.Tension arises,
The Turkish Army will get tough. Casualities will increase.
Some genocide rumours will be heard.
Last Step;
Imperialist powers will warn Turkey,an Nato / UN operation may be expected like Yugoslavia.
Kurdistan is ready to be formed!
Only a Conspiracy Theory, do not take care ...
Breathing each other's lives
Holding this in mind
That if we fall, we all fall
And we fall alone
*SOAD
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Originally posted by JosephMany rebellions are funded through nefarious means. One example is the Mojaheddin movement vs. the Soviets in Afghanistan was bolstered by the opium trade.
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Originally posted by RUDOSo?
I know all you said in the post.
Don't you think that both of them are guilty?
The PKK bullied, killed, robbed, and terrorized all Kurdish civilians who showed the courage of disagreeing with them.
The Turkish Army initiated its biggest campaign against these terrorists, in order to protect Turkish and Kurdish civilians alike. During this struggle, the army often failed to take sufficient precautions in order to seperate terrorist from civilian.
To admit that the Turkish Army committed grave mistakes is one thing, equaling them to PKK babykillers is another. If you go to bed in Istanbul, Ankara, or wherever you are, and sleep safe and sound, you owe it to the Turkish Army. Just look at the postings of some Armenian forum members here, and you can tell how they would love to 'serve and protect' you if they had the military might to invade (at least part of) Turkey.
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Originally posted by OttomanOne Conspiracy Theory ...
First Step;
PKK now tries to make Turkish and Kurdish people hate each other.
Aims No trade - no marriage - no neighbourhood between these people.
This will ease the separation.This is why PKK targets civilians on west side of Turkey.
Second Step;
When the first step is ok,More people will join PKK.Tension arises,
The Turkish Army will get tough. Casualities will increase.
Some genocide rumours will be heard.
Last Step;
Imperialist powers will warn Turkey,an Nato / UN operation may be expected like Yugoslavia.
Kurdistan is ready to be formed!
Only a Conspiracy Theory, do not take care ...
Breathing each other's lives
Holding this in mind
That if we fall, we all fall
And we fall alone
*SOADGeneral Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”
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Originally posted by gokhanvery easy to answer. Most of our neighboors do not want to see a 72 million giant to stand up and start growing economically.General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”
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