The Policy of Turkification of Iran

[imported_oslonor]

He is a pan-turkist "Azeri" who wants to sever the real Azarabijan (Aturpatekan) from Iran and annex it to their fake Azgarbageland.

Oslonor:
There is no reason for an Azeri Pan turkist to pretend he is Persian!!!!!

[imported_Hellektor]

He is a pan-turkist "Azeri" who wants to sever the real Azarabijan (Aturpatekan) from Iran and annex it to their fake Azgarbageland.

Oslonor:
There is no reason for an Azeri Pan turkist to pretend he is Persian!!!!!

Exactly!!!
Pretend is the word.

[imported_Hellektor]

The difference between the accent of Azeris from Iran and the Republic of Azerbaijan is equivlant to the difference of accent between people from New York and Boston, which makes it clear that the language of the Azeris north of the Aras and south of the Aras is basically the same.

With every post, the pan-turkist nature of oslonor becomes clearer.

How many ethnicities live in New York?
How many ethnicities live in Boston?
Do they all consider themselves the same people?

Pan-turkism claims, since the language of peoples living from the wall of China to Finland is similar, they should be "united" in a big "Turan".

[Bulgarian]

oslonor I notice you didnt answer my questions.

You say the Azeris are oppressing the rest of the ethnic groups in Iran. Yet you also say that the Azeris are being oppressed because they cant learn their language in schools!?

You think you can just show a few photos of Azeris, Afghans and Persians to prove that they are different? Thats crazy. I look similar to Russians and other Slavic peoples. Does that mean Im Russian?

You also use a picture of that women from the matrix in your avatar, I thought you were a man?

You think that there is a need for an Afghan empire!!!! That is nuts.

You claim that the Azeris are hijacking the name Iranian. Why have I never heard this before?

Then I read this:

Persians are going to be used for improving African-American race. At the same time Persians are going to be reduced from a mainstream white Persian-American citizens to a Persian-African minority. This creates Persians as an ethnic minority and in need of Jewish liberals in the democratic party in US to gain access to jobs and social positions as African-Americans are dependent today.

from this link: http://oslonor.blogspot.com/2005/10/...americans.html

You are obviously a racist. Persians are going to be used by the Jews to improve the African-American race??? That implies that the African-American race needs improving.

Then from searching another forum I saw this: http://www.forum.uz/showpost.php?p=413054&postcount=12

New Map of Iran




President Karzai Leaves for Turkey

OSP, Press Release
03/22/2006
By

Arg, Kabul – H.E. Hamid Karzai, President of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, left for Turkey this afternoon to attend an international symposium on "Global Terrorism and International Cooperation" in Ankara to which he has been invited as a keynote speaker.

The President's address to the symposium will focus on threat the world faces from terrorism, what countries can do to defeat this menace and Afghanistan 's experiences in fighting terrorism.

The President is accompanied on this trip by H.E. Dr. Rangin Dadfar Spanta, Senior Advisor to the President on International Affairs, General Abdul Rashid Dustom, Chief of Staff to the Commander of the Armed Forces, H.E. Amrullah Saleh, National Director of Security and H.E. Jawed Ludin, Chief of Staff to the President.

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How is that map of new Iran in Irans interests????


oslonor your even on parsaworlds (a website about Ancient Iran) Offenders list!
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From what I can see is your a pan-Turkist separatist trying to give bad names to Azeris and Persians and trying to divide Iranians. If not then your a madman.

[imported_oslonor]

You think you can just show a few photos of Azeris, Afghans and Persians to prove that they are different? Thats crazy. I look similar to Russians and other Slavic peoples. Does that mean Im Russian?

Oslonor:
Let us start with your points one by one:
It is not clear what you are saying. Do you mean those pictures are not the pictures of Persians and Azeris? Do you mean I posted the pictures of Russians? I appreciate if you explain that.

[Bulgarian]

You think you can just show a few photos of Azeris, Afghans and Persians to prove that they are different? Thats crazy. I look similar to Russians and other Slavic peoples. Does that mean Im Russian?

Oslonor:
It is not clear what you are saying. Do you mean those pictures are not the pictures of Persians and Azeris? Do you mean I posted the pictures of Russians? I appreciate if you explain that.

I am saying you are a racist pan-Turkist.

How is that map of the new Iran in Irans benefit?

I am also saying that you can not use pictures of Azeris and Persians as some kind of proof that they are different.

Pictures cant prove that people are different. There are Turks who look Armenian and Armenians who look Turkish. As there are Persians that look Azeri and Azeris who look Persian. As there are Swedes who look Danish and Danes who look Swedish. As there are Germans who look Dutch and Dutch people who look German. There are Indians who look Pakistani and Pakistanis who look Indian. There are Japanese people who look Chinese and Chinese people who look Japanese. There are Nigerians who look Cameroonians and Cameroonians who look like Nigerians. Do you get this?

People from different nationalities may look different but alot of them look the same. You need DNA evidence to support your claims about Azeris and Persians. Since I havent seen any and you havent shown any that must mean that your wrong. Pictures of Azeri and Persian faces will not suffice.

BTW Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is not a Azeri Turk.

[imported_oslonor]

I am saying you are a racist pan-Turkist.

How is that map of the new Iran in Irans benefit?

I am also saying that you can not use pictures of Azeris and Persians as some kind of proof that they are different.

Pictures cant prove that people are different. There are Turks who look Armenian and Armenians who look Turkish. As there are Persians that look Azeri and Azeris who look Persian. As there are Swedes who look Danish and Danes who look Swedish. As there are Germans who look Dutch and Dutch people who look German. There are Indians who look Pakistani and Pakistanis who look Indian. There are Japanese people who look Chinese and Chinese people who look Japanese. There are Nigerians who look Cameroonians and Cameroonians who look like Nigerians. Do you get this?

People from different nationalities may look different but alot of them look the same. You need DNA evidence to support your claims about Azeris and Persians. Since I havent seen any and you havent shown any that must mean that your wrong. Pictures of Azeri and Persian faces will not suffice.

BTW Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is not a Azeri Turk.

What you mean is there are some mixed race Azeris. If a Persian is mixed with an Azeri then he is not persian anymore and I will not use his picture as the phenotype for a Persian. The pictures I have posted show the typical Azeri and Persian phenotye. And the difference is not minor such as Swedes and Danish. It is a major ethnic difference. Practically everything is different. I have even posted Azeris with blond hair and blue eyes and they still look Azeri. Afghans are posted as there are no Azeris in Afghanistan and Azeri phenotypes do not exist in Afghanistan. That confirm even more that Persians are a different ethnic group from Azeris as Afghans are related to Persians in ethnic terms.

[Bulgarian]

What you mean is there are some mixed race Azeris. If a Persian is mixed with an Azeri then he is not persian anymore and I will not use his picture as the phenotype for a Persian. The pictures I have posted show the typical Azeri and Persian phenotye. And the difference is not minor such as Swedes and Danish. It is a major ethnic difference. Practically everything is different. I have even posted Azeris with blond hair and blue eyes and they still look Azeri. Afghans are posted as there are no Azeris in Afghanistan and Azeri phenotypes do not exist in Afghanistan. That confirm even more that Persians are a different ethnic group from Azeris as Afghans are related to Persians in ethnic terms.

I am not saying that Azeris are the same as Persians. I know they are different.

I am trying to say that using pictures is not a scientific method. Dont you have scientific studies to support you?

However I was under the impression that Azeris and Persians have the same common ancestor that all Iranic peoples have?

Iran like Turkey and Greece is a place where many interactions between different peoples have occured throughout history. The modern day Azeris must have this same Iranic origin as Persians but with a hint of Turkic admixture. There language and name is also Turkic. Its like Bulgaria the Slavs are the majority but we have kept the Turkic name of Bulgar(ia) as our name. The Azeris must have done the same thing because as far as Im aware the migration of the Turkic peoples to Iran and Turkey was not extremely large enough to completely change the genetic mix of people.

That said there must be some Azeris without any Turkic admixture in them.

[imported_oslonor]

That said there must be some Azeris without any Turkic admixture in them.

Oslonor:
The only one is Gogoosh who is ethnically Persian. No. Azeris look the way I have posted their pictures. There are three way to identify ethnic groups:
1. Phenotypes
2. Physical measurement
3. DNA
All of them are valid.

[Bulgarian]

That said there must be some Azeris without any Turkic admixture in them.

Oslonor:
The only one is Gogoosh who is ethnically Persian. No. Azeris look the way I have posted their pictures. There are three way to identify ethnic groups:
1. Phenotypes
2. Physical measurement
3. DNA
All of them are valid.

I havent seen any DNA evidence at all.

Do you have any to show me?