The Policy of Turkification of Iran

[imported_Hellektor]

Severity of the Psychosis: Incurable Brain Damage

Oslonor, I think I was clear when I said:


You don't need to answer this post. What you do is you twist my words to an extent that I don't even know what you want to make out from what I say.

For the last time these are what I believe and please don't answer (twist) it:

I. A nation called "Azeri" has NEVER existed throughout human history.

II. A country named "Azerbaijan" north of the Arax River NEVER existed before 1918.

III. A language derived from Turkish called "Azeri" does not exist. Turks of the Caucasus speak a DIALECT of Turkish.

IV. The peoples living to the south and to the north of the Arax River have ALWAYS been two separate, unrelated entities throughout history in racial, linguistic, religious, cultural and national terms.

V. The people of the real Azarbaijan (Aturpatekan) SOUTH of the Arax River are Turkish speaking Iranians. This is the result of the Turkic domination in the region.

VI. I deduce from your posts that you support the pan-turkist idea of the existence of two Azarbaijans and the fantasy of "uniting" the two.

I think this is as clear as daylight and does not need any further discussion between you and me.

If you want to argue, go to the other world and argue with all the historians who wrote about the region since the beginning of history recording.

Now I am getting angry!

When are you grow up Sellektor?

I hope a stone as big as Azerbeyjan falls onto your head and you might come to senses may be!

The hypocrite is showing his true Turqish colors! That said I don't see how one can get angry seeing some unquestionable, undeniable, 100% true facts, each as solid as mount Ararat.

You prove ONE of the points above* wrong, then may the stone fall on my head. Otherwise I hope you fall on the stone with your bottom.

I'm waiting for a reply to the challenge, so don't change the subject in your response.

*Apart from point VI which concerns oslonor.

I wouldnt throw bone to each and every barking dog.
Now entertain yourself with your nonsense.

lets assume for a slight moment you are right that there was no Azeri nation, now there is so whats your point again?

Interestingly his shameful allegations find some support. I think you have no right to oppose/criticize those Azeri historians who say there were no Armenians but Albanians in Karabag.

I knew you'd chicken out.

Facing facts as hard as their brazen faces the Turks react in the following manners:

Diagnosis of the psychosis: Symptom IV. They shut up and say nothing.
(For chickening out and avoiding the challenge).
This means the stone as big as Azgarbageland is in your rear.

Diagnosis of the psychosis: Symptom III. They offend (cuss, threaten or mock):

I wouldnt throw bone to each and every barking dog.
Now entertain yourself with your nonsense.

Diagnosis of the psychosis: Symptom I. They change the subject:

lets assume for a slight moment you are right that there was no Azeri nation, now there is so whats your point again?

Diagnosis of the psychosis: Symptom II. They project:

Interestingly his shameful allegations find some support. I think you have no right to oppose/criticize those Azeri historians who say there were no Armenians but Albanians in Karabag.

FYI the so called Albanians (Aghvank) were very close to Armenians and they disappeared/assimilated loooong before the Turks set hoof in the region.
Besides, the river Kur was the border between Armenia and Aghvank. Artsakh has ALWAYS been Armenian and the so called "Azeri" "Historians" like Ziya Bunyatov are famous for their falsifications and History fabrications. No freshman student of history will take these losers as historians let alone scholars.

Meanwhile go and read some real history. I don't think your brain damage is curable though.

I repeat the following passage from a previous post of mine (with additions):

All historians (and geographical historians) who have written about the region from Greeks and Romans such as Strabbo, Pliny, Ptolemy, Dion Cassius... to Arab and Persian historians Balazari, Massoudi, Tabari, Dinvari, Estakhri, Ibn Hawqal, Ibn Khordadbeh... to Armenian historians from Khorenatsi, Pavstos Buzand, Agatangeghos to Kaghankatouatsi... have provided humanity with undeniable HISTORICAL facts, where there is absolutely no question regarding the separateness, duality, "unrelatedness", call it what you want, between the REAL Azarbaijan (Aturpatekan) and the land north of the Arax River in racial, linguistic, religious, cultural and national terms.

Add to these the 19th and 20th century scholars such as:
Bartold, Diakonov, Gumilev, Marquart, Minorsky, Pigulevskaia, Chavannes, etc., etc.

Not that I think you'll bother to read, because your brain damage does not allow you to see and accept facts.

[imported_Hellektor]

How can we excpect TurQx to know/accept Armenian history when they don't even know/accept their own?
Everyone that states differently then Turkich/Azpatlijan version of history is dissmixed as hearsay or as having a grudge against them.
Ha Ha Ha Ha !

Short and to the point!

[imported_Hellektor]

You got that from us too!

Yapma Gavur this was not a good joke, I know you have performed better.
Toorkiishh was of more sarcastic than Azpatlijan!

I am not an expert but I know enough for an avarage person.

Question of the day: Who was the architect of the famous bridge in Mostar of Bosna(or Stari most)

Answer of the millennium: Mimar Hajrudin, Sinan's student.

Check this page if you don't believe it.
A Turkish historian uncovered a document in which it clearly states that the bridge was built by Hajrudin, Sinan's student.

There was a saying in those black days that proved your tent-dwelling ancestors were not capable of putting one brick upon another.
Your nomadic grandpaws NEEDED the Armenians to build and run "their" country.

Ermeni ustanin elinden geçmeyen caminin minaresi ayakta kalmaz, yikilir.
From ‘Ermeni Sorunu’ by T. Ates in ‘Yol’ No. 22-24, p.38, Duisburg, 1982.

When they didn't need them anymore, they exterminated them.

[imported_oslonor]

So Iran is going to become Azerbatlijan?
Make me laugh Ha Ha Ho Ho Hi H Huuuui!

I do not understand your joke. What do you mean? And what is your problem? I am not a turk. I repreent Persians. We had traditionaly good relations with Armenians.

[imported_oslonor]

Just totally nuts and disconected with reality - thats all...(no need to respond - I can't imagine anything you might say I would care at all to hear)

Can you explain what is wrong.? We like to hear that.

[imported_oslonor]

*Apart from point VI which concerns oslonor.

VI. I deduce from your posts that you support the pan-turkist idea of the existence of two Azarbaijans and the fantasy of "uniting" the two.

*Apart from point VI which concerns oslonor.

I see most people are in sleep and do not understand what is going on in the region. They are just repeating some old formulas about Turks. I think there are very fast developments that you should be aware.

It is not the business of Persians to tell Azeris what they should do. Also Persians have as much right as anybody else to make decisions who they want join or who they want to separate from.

But US might bomb Azeri Turks in Iran which has nothing to do with me. But you should be aware of the consequences. Also Turkey is currently recruiting Iranian refugees to use them against Azeri Turks in Iran. Also Turkey is meeting Afghan officials to see how they can work together against Azeri Turks in Iran. Turkey has understood that to unite with The Republic of Azerbaijan is impossible unless they can get the Iranian Azerbaijan province. So they have shifted their policy to Iranian Azerbaijan. All this has consequences for Armenia. But the real protector of Armenia is Russia and not Azeri Turks in Iran. Azeri Turks in Iran can anytime settle their differences with the Republic of Azerbaijan and pose a greater threat to Armenia than The Republic of Azerbaijan does. So Armenian should think more long term than on temporary allainces. This is a map of what Pan Turkist think would be the future of the region.

As far as Persians are concerned they will use the situation to separate from Azeris and Join Afghans. Persians are closely related to Afghans and they have as much right as others who they want to associate with. Persians do not live in the past. The Azeri/Persians alliance has been compeltely destroyed by Azeri Turks in power and we do not consider Azeris as Iranians anymore. (In a political sense otherwise they are turks ethnically). This is the end of Saffavids empire version 2. But this is time is going to be the last time. The reason is after the removal of Azeri Turk regime in Tehran, the extent of their crimes and their racial agenda will be exposed and nobody will respect any Azeri in the region anymore. And they will not be able to hide behind the persian label anymore. It is up to Azeris to decide what they want to do with The Republic of Azerbaijan or Turkey. They willl be on their own controlling only a few areas in Iran.

[Gavur]

If that happens Iranian missiles would rain in Ankara.

[ScythianVizier]

Why do you think is that?

It is due to the fact that the USA plays proactive strategic games in the Middle East, Balkans, Caucasus and Central Asia. In that regard, the USA even supports the Tuckic speaking Uygur population in China. The actual scheme is involved in preventing the USD (and of course her economy) from losing its dominant power within the context of the world economy.

[TurQ]

Good Good you found the answer,

Mimar Hayrettin student of Mimar Sinan. Mimar Sinan as I told you before is the master of Architects, and he is not of ARmenian origin(Ithought too, but he is of Greek origin) and it does really not matter. Mimar Sinan is not the great Sinan without his belief in Islam, without his devotion to Ottoman state he couldnt be the magnificent Sinan. SAme is true for Mimar Hayrettin. Today
the architects can not solve how Hayrettin actually built that bridge, with the knowledge of that age. They simply can not say anything, those architects were way ahead of their counterparts in Europe.

I personally dont know Mimar Sinan's master and who actually thought him his art. COuld you also tell us how he was brought up?

Answer of the millennium: Mimar Hajrudin, Sinan's student.

Check this page if you don't believe it.
A Turkish historian uncovered a document in which it clearly states that the bridge was built by Hajrudin, Sinan's student.

There was a saying in those black days that proved your tent-dwelling ancestors were not capable of putting one brick upon another.
Your nomadic grandpaws NEEDED the Armenians to build and run "their" country.

Ermeni ustanin elinden geçmeyen caminin minaresi ayakta kalmaz, yikilir.
From ‘Ermeni Sorunu’ by T. Ates in ‘Yol’ No. 22-24, p.38, Duisburg, 1982.

When they didn't need them anymore, they exterminated them.

[imported_oslonor]

It is due to the fact that the USA plays proactive strategic games in the Middle East, Balkans, Caucasus and Central Asia. In that regard, the USA even supports the Tuckic speaking Uygur population in China. The actual scheme is involved in preventing the USD (and of course her economy) from losing its dominant power within the context of the world economy.

You are definitely right.