The Policy of Turkification of Iran

[Gondorian]

You see, you don't read what I say. It's OK when you don't reply but when you do, please don't put words in my mouth.

Once and for all:

The people of the real Azarbaijan (Aturpatekan) are Turkish speaking Iranians

They are not Turks. They are Iranians racially, culturally, historically, religiously, mentally and with all their heart.

If you are denying this you are either misinformed (by pan-turkist propaganda or lack of knowledge) or you are a pan-turkist yourself.

Here you have tons of articles about the issue, written by the people you call Turkish minority in Iran. They all confirm what I say, it's a pity the website is in Farsi only, though.
It has tons of articles about the language called Azari, which was a dialect of Pahlavi and not Turkish.
Arab historians referred to this language as Azari and that's where the word comes from.
A nation called "Azeri" is pure fiction and has never been referred to by any historian ever.

I don't want to discuss about minority oppression in Iran, as you might know why. In any case the oppression is on all the nation and not a certain group.
The only group who were openly under pressure were the Bahais, because the regime does not recognize their religion. However in Shah's time they were not discriminated against, as no other group was, except for the communists.
Pepsi Cola Iran for example was owned by Bahais.
I already said too much about the subject.

I do not care what you call the Sunni Minority, they are being heavily persecuted, and your contention that it is ok to Persecute people for not being the right racial stock is disgusting at best.

I don't see why you defend your governments persecution of the minorities of your country.

In short if the minorities of your country get up in arms and rebel it is your own dam fault for persucuting them since you guys gave them no reason to remain loyal, and don't give me the rhetoric that the Iranian Government has nothing to do with the people, it has been in power for 29 years that is more then enough time for a universally despised government to be overthrown, it is never challenged when they need "Martyrs", and most telling of all you defend Iran's persecution policy.

[imported_Hellektor]

Still avoiding the subject

It is not deportation(Yet it is not genocide) it is to rearrange populations in Ottoman state. It was part of state policy to maintain stabilty in the state.

This is what pisses me off the most. The self-righteousness of the representatives of a species of savage, barbaric, nomadic, rape crazy, cities to cinders razing, buildings to rubble reducing, babies against rocks hurling, churches and houses torching, bloodthirsty, tent-dwelling, cattle-herder, Ural-Altaic, Mongolo-Tatar, Oghuz-Turkmen bandits who invaded my home and brought nothing other than death, destruction, subjugation, terror, rape, pillage, plunder, slavery, stealing of women and children and genocide.

As if a nation with thousands of years of civilization had been sitting, waiting for your grandpaws to turn my home into rubble and treat my people like cattle... And after all that misery you, hypocrite, you still can't bring yourself to condemn that worthless "Empire" of Pillage and Plunder.

Writing about Major Niyazi who took part in the suppression of the Bulgarian uprising, and who confessed that he felt the pain of the rebels, Aydemir writes:
"Indeed, he fought for a master who had not been able to prove its legitimacy in 500 years; who in 500 years, had not been able to add a positive value to this region, who had not been able to bring about a single constructive development and whose end was imminent, while the opponent knew what they wanted and what they were dying for."
(Aydemir, S. S., from Enver Pasa, III parts, Istanbul, Remzi Pub. page 444.)

This was merely for maintaining populations inside the Ottoman state. I dont think Armenians were so angry about being sent to Cyprus.

I don't think you asked them (or cared to do so) what they liked or disliked.
They were your slaves and you, the master race had the right to do with them whatever you wished.

What I knew was Sinan was of Kayseri Armenian, but majority of the people believes he is of Greek origin.

I have answered this in the previous post. You can believe whatever you "want" to believe.

Ottomans was so genocidal state thruout the history so that how come the Armenians would become a ministery of Treasure of Minister of Foreign affairs in Ottoman state?

A textbook standard genocide denial reasoning.

Compare:
A racist will always say: I'm not a racist. I listen to black music... or: I have favorite actors who are black... etc.

P.S. Is the stone the size of Azgarbageland still in your rear? That must hurt. You still haven't faced the challenge and are just changing the subject.

[imported_Hellektor]

Only 25% of the population of Iran are Turks.

I know about the pan Turkists.

So, you too believe that they are Turks.
This means you are either misinformed or a pan-turkist.

[Bulgarian]

So, you too believe that they are Turks.
This means you are either misinformed or a pan-turkist.

HAHA

They are Turks and no I am a Turk hater.

I dislike the Turks more than you can ever imagine.

[imported_Hellektor]

I do not care what you call the Sunni Minority, they are being heavily persecuted, and your contention that it is ok to Persecute people for not being the right racial stock is disgusting at best.

Now you are crossing the line.
I give you the benefit of the doubt but you constantly twist my words and put words in my mouth that I have never said.

Are you "myopic" or "dyslexic"?
Where have I said "that it is ok to Persecute people for not being the right racial stock."?

You are being a SOB by claiming this and no matter what I call the Turks, I never twist their words.
What you are doing is revealing your disgusting colors.

For xxxx's sake read this article. There is no racism in Iran, never has been, despite the dictatorial regime.

I don't see why you defend your governments persecution of the minorities of your country.

Goddammit! When did I defend "my" government? What the xxxx do you know people are going through here? You want to have me arrested or something?
Don't you read the goddamn post?

I don't want to discuss about minority oppression in Iran, as you might know why. In any case the oppression is on all the nation and not a certain group.
...I already said too much about the subject.

I am an Armenian and a minority, a DHIMMI myself, goddammit!

[imported_Hellektor]

So, you too believe that they are Turks.
This means you are either misinformed or a pan-turkist.

HAHA

They are Turks and no I am a Turk hater.

I dislike the Turks more than you can ever imagine.

What the hell is wrong with you people?

I was xxxxing born, xxxxing grew up in this xxxxing country and you are xxxxing telling me you xxxxing know xxxxing better who xxxxing live in this goddamn country?

You want to xxxxing get me banned, then xxxxing so be it.
You don't xxxxing know xxxx about Iran. So have some respect and stop inventing crap.

P.S. I don't hate the Turks, I pity them.

[Bulgarian]

What the hell is wrong with you people?

I was xxxxing born, xxxxing grew up in this xxxxing country and you are xxxxing telling me you xxxxing know xxxxing better who xxxxing live in this goddamn country?

You want to xxxxing get me banned, then xxxxing so be it.
You don't xxxxing know xxxx about Iran. So have some respect and stop inventing crap.

P.S. I don't hate the Turks, I pity them.

I dont even know you and look how you are talking to me.

Your rude. Your goddamn rude mister. Where did I say I want you banned??? You psychopath

25% of Iran is Azeri its not 50% like that Olsonor person thinks. Personally I think Olsonor is very much anti-Turkish and anti-Azeri. I only have a problem with Turks I dont care about Azeris.

You are not only anti-Turkish and anti-Azeri but your anti-Bulgarian and it appears to me you anti-social and anti-human.

[Gondorian]

No rascism?

Ok in that case see what happens if a Muslim converts to Zorastrianism.

The fact is Iran is a very intolerant state, and one that wants wars and supports terrorism for its own sakes.

Oh reality check for you, you are 2000 KM away from Israel, yet instead of doing the thing in your national interest being an Ally you dedicate so much resources to its destruction.

[imported_Hellektor]

I dont even know you and look how you are talking to me.

Read the goddamn post. I'm not against you and I know you support the Armenians. The thing is, there's a constant emphasis on the Turkish speaking Iranians to be Turkish and I goddamn know they are NOT.

I constantly keep on posting links to articles/websites that prove what I say to be true.

You come back and as if you are correcting me, you tell me:
"They are Turks and no I am a Turk hater." and you expect me not to get mad.

I don't say 50% of Iranians are Turks, the pan-turkists do. Capice?
No one, and I mean NO ONE can estimate how much of Iranian blood is "Turkish".
For a thousand years, Turks have invaded and dominated Iran. Race is not an issue. A Persian speaking Iranian may tell you his father is a Turkish speaking Iranian, yet he may not speak a word of Turkish. You can't begin to understand this, so just take it from me: They are NOT Turks.

Re-read my post and tell me PLEASE, where have I offended you?
The xxxxing word "xxxxing" is used for emphasis and it does not point at you, yet without knowing me, this is what you throw at me:

Your rude. Your goddamn rude mister. Where did I say I want you banned??? You psychopath

...You are not only anti-Turkish and anti-Azeri ("Azeri"??? No such thing exists. H.) but your anti-Bulgarian and it appears to me you anti-social and anti-human.

Did I ever insult you or anyone here this way?
Now, please apologize, because I have nothing against you.

I only have a problem with Turks I dont care about Azeris.

You see? "Azeris" (those in the bogus Azgarbageland) are Turks. A nation called "Azeri" has never existed throughout human history and "Azerbaijan" was artificially created as an extension of the Ottoman Tyranny, to destroy Armenia and to realize their sick pan-turkist dream.

Where did I say I want you banned???

I have been warned that I'll get banned if I say f**k in this forum, but your post drove me so mad I couldn't help it. Got it?

[imported_Hellektor]

You Are A Zionist Agitator Gondorian

No rascism?

Ok in that case see what happens if a Muslim converts to Zorastrianism.

The fact is Iran is a very intolerant state, and one that wants wars and supports terrorism for its own sakes.

Oh reality check for you, you are 2000 KM away from Israel, yet instead of doing the thing in your national interest being an Ally you dedicate so much resources to its destruction.

That's it, Shlomo. You pretend not to read my posts and you twist my words.

Are you myopic or dyslexic? Do you read English?
Which part of the following you don't understand?

Goddammit! When did I defend "my" government? What the xxxx do you know people are going through here? You want to have me arrested or something?

I am an Armenian and a minority, a DHIMMI myself, goddammit!

The fact is Iran is a very intolerant state

The Iranian STATE is not the Iranian PEOPLE.

...you are 2000 KM away from Israel, ...you dedicate so much resources to its destruction.

From all the problems I have in this world, the loud mouthing of the leaders of this regime is the least important to me.

I think you will achieve your goal of me being arrested, I won't reply any more posts about the Iranian regime. I don't want to die yet.