Turks, a bastard-people (a mix of everything)

[Bulgarian]

Has it hit a nerve that you (the Turks) dont have a race?

[ScythianVizier]

Has it hit a nerve that you (the Turks) dont have a race?

I am one of the direct descendants of Volga Bulgars, belonging to Karachay-Balkar (Bolgar) Turks. In that sense, my ancestors has been in Caucasus, Khazar, and Transaxonia long before any other was around, and we are still around, so I wonder with whom you mixed for centuries having known the fact that you do not speak the Turkic language anymore.

[Tarrak Hasan]

I think this guy is a Kurd named Bulgarian. Otherwise, what does a Bulgarian do with Turks? This must be a Kurdish tactics, to show all neighbours as enemy of Turkey. I suppose they knew there is nothing to do against Turkish govern. They are hoping help from the others for PKK. And they surely knew that if Turkey joins EU, PKK will not exist in Turkey anymore with EU membership.

[Bulgarian]

Simple. I am a Slav as the majority of us are. The Bulgars you speak of were only small in number when they arrived in Bulgaria. This is ironically the same as the Tatars that arrived in Azerbaijan and the Turks that arrived in modern day Turkey.

I am a pure Slav and I can say proudly that I have no Turkic blood in me.

[Bulgarian]

I think this guy is a Kurd named Bulgarian. Otherwise, what does a Bulgarian do with Turks? This must be a Kurdish tactics, to show all neighbours as enemy of Turkey. I suppose they knew there is nothing to do against Turkish govern. They are hoping help from the others for PKK. And they surely knew that if Turkey joins EU, PKK will not exist in Turkey anymore with EU membership.

Well maybe when you Turks stop trying to create a demographic majority in my nation then I will stop hating you.

The PKK or another organisation that promotes the independence of the Kurds will always exist because there are always going to be Kurds wanting to fight of their right for self determination. Kurdish terrorism will stop once Northern Kurdistan is granted independence. The EU wont even allow Turkey within its ranks if the violence caused by Kurds due to their understandable frustrations does not stop.

[elendil]

Has it hit a nerve that you (the Turks) dont have a race?

Not really but trying to explain people that nations revolve around common and dominant culture of the geography of the country for three pages is tiresome. It becomes a little annoying when the person who makes the claim still trys to tell me who I am, where I come from. About race, come tell it to 58 million Turkish people in Turkey, we are a nation and other people may think what they like. (I disregarded Kurdish people in terms of number)

Well maybe when you Turks stop trying to create a demographic majority in my nation then I will stop hating you.

The PKK or another organisation that promotes the independence of the Kurds will always exist because there are always going to be Kurds wanting to fight of their right for self determination. Kurdish terrorism will stop once Northern Kurdistan is granted independence. The EU wont even allow Turkey within its ranks if the violence caused by Kurds due to their understandable frustrations does not stop.

I am sorry but the Turkish people that live in Bulgaria are your problem. As Kurdish people that live in Turkey is our problem. As to independence of so called northeren Kurdistan,south-eastern Turkey, if Kurd's majority really wish independence, let them have it. I have become so tired of them, rebel,rebel, rebel- breed,breed, breed- do not produce, do not produce, do not produce...
Though still the Kurdish people's party HADEP takes only %5 of the votes while Kurds form %15-20 of our country. Anyways we are a people, Turkish speaking, Turkish thinking and therefore Turkish. But if you really think we are not a race,nation then let us no be for your black eyes Bulgarian. If that will please you or solve your problems in Bulgaria itself, then so be it my Slavic friend.

[TurQ]

Elendil
even fevrent PKK supporters have no idea about having a seperate state. Majority of HADEP/DEP/DET supporters are not supporting seperation, 90% of that 5% vote is just reactionary vote.

These guys still see thing thru the filter of 19th century fashion nationalism, they remained pretty much backwards.

I know Bulgarians in my city, they are very much friendly with Turks, and Bulgaria as a country is one of the trusted neighbours of Turkey. They really remained in past cant move a bit further.

Not really but trying to explain people that nations revolve around common and dominant culture of the geography of the country for three pages is tiresome. It becomes a little annoying when the person who makes the claim still trys to tell me who I am, where I come from. About race, come tell it to 58 million Turkish people in Turkey, we are a nation and other people may think what they like. (I disregarded Kurdish people in terms of number)



I am sorry but the Turkish people that live in Bulgaria are your problem. As Kurdish people that live in Turkey is our problem. As to independence of so called northeren Kurdistan,south-eastern Turkey, if Kurd's majority really wish independence, let them have it. I have become so tired of them, rebel,rebel, rebel- breed,breed, breed- do not produce, do not produce, do not produce...
Though still the Kurdish people's party HADEP takes only %5 of the votes while Kurds form %15-20 of our country. Anyways we are a people, Turkish speaking, Turkish thinking and therefore Turkish. But if you really think we are not a race,nation then let us no be for your black eyes Bulgarian. If that will please you or solve your problems in Bulgaria itself, then so be it my Slavic friend.

[TurQ]

Volga Bulgars are one of the first Turkish branch/tribe that embraced Islam, and still Tatars of Volga call themselves as Bulgars.

I am one of the direct descendants of Volga Bulgars, belonging to Karachay-Balkar (Bolgar) Turks. In that sense, my ancestors has been in Caucasus, Khazar, and Transaxonia long before any other was around, and we are still around, so I wonder with whom you mixed for centuries having known the fact that you do not speak the Turkic language anymore.

[kerkuk_kurdista]

We speak Turkish, we think Turkish, our culture is Turkish and above all we say we are Turkish therefore we are Turkish. Let this idiotic discussion end here....

Let me rectify some things....

"We speak Mixish, we think Mixish, our culture is Mixish, and above all we say we are Mixish therefore we are Mixish."

This thing of being a "TURK" comes only from 1923, there was an ID-crisis before that, and now it's being hided by the government of yours. Not one of your grandparents knew they were "turkish", because there is no such thing as "Turkish". Mix does exist. Have you ever asked yourself why there are 100 sorts of people that call themselves "Turk", a blonde calls himself a "Turk", a blackhaired one does the same, a bigeyed does, a bigbearded one does, a negro does, a redhead does, this is never seen elsewhere in the World. They all listen to their government like sheep and believe this thing of being "Turkish".

[elendil]

Let me rectify some things....

"We speak Mixish, we think Mixish, our culture is Mixish, and above all we say we are Mixish therefore we are Mixish."

This thing of being a "TURK" comes only from 1923, there was an ID-crisis before that, and now it's being hided by the government of yours. Not one of your grandparents knew they were "turkish", because there is no such thing as "Turkish". Mix does exist. Have you ever asked yourself why there are 100 sorts of people that call themselves "Turk", a blonde calls himself a "Turk", a blackhaired one does the same, a bigeyed does, a bigbearded one does, a negro does, a redhead does, this is never seen elsewhere in the World. They all listen to their government like sheep and believe this thing of being "Turkish".

America, China and Russia are one of few countries where you can see such form of nationhood. And no, the term Turk came loooonggg before 1923, I know it you know it. Anyway we are Turks in fact Kerkuk-Kurdistane but just like Bulgarian for your black eyes we are mixish(Really what an idiot) ....