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  • Originally posted by Alucardian
    I also saw the modification.
    Boubrig I would suggest listening to the mods for once...

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    • Originally posted by TurQ
      Zaza is different than Kurdish, my Kurdish friends says Zazas and Kurds cant understand each other(at least comfortablely may be)
      Yes you are right TurQ.For example my grand mum knows both Kurmanci(a part of kurdish language)and Zaza.But my parents can't talk it,but they understand it.

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      • I am still not sure about my nation.I think I never get sure about it. So what should I do?
        But I have a voice in my mind saying you are half armenian.Is the voice saying the truth?

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        • Originally posted by RUDO
          I am still not sure about my nation.I think I never get sure about it. So what should I do?
          But I have a voice in my mind saying you are half armenian.Is the voice saying the truth?
          RUDO this whole topic is a complex situation. There are many reasons for this which I will try and deal with as many as I can think of:

          Firstly many Armenians took refuge with Kurdish families.

          Many Armenians also took refuge with Turkish families.

          The younger Armenians (wherever orphaned or not) most likely never learnt Armenian. This is due to several factors such as fear of being targeted again or the lack of Armenians to teach them Armenian.

          Some Armenian women were also married off to Kurdish or Turkish men whether forcibly or not.

          Another important problem is that Turks (Im not sure about Kurds) only adopted surnames after the genocide had taken place. Someone will have to correct me if Im wrong but I think surnames were made compulsory in 1934. This makes it hard for Turks to trace relatives and family connections pre 20th century.

          The Turks were not the keepers of records and considering a large section of eastern Turkey was illiterate memories and words spread by mouth. If someone Armenian ancestry is not mentioned - it becomes forgotten or even perminantly lost.

          Oh RUDO it is highly unlikely you are half Armenian. Unless one of your parents is Armenian or if both your parents are half Armenian. It is possible that you have partial Armenian ancestry but that would only be a small percentage of your makeup.


          Heres a website about Cryto-Armenians in Turkey (although I know if its all facts): http://www.geocities.com/cryptoarmenians/index.html

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          • Oh RUDO it is highly unlikely you are half Armenian. Unless one of your parents is Armenian or if both your parents are half Armenian. It is possible that you have partial Armenian ancestry but that would only be a small percentage of your makeup.
            It seems logical to me.I can have a small percentage of Armenian.Of course I can't have 100% Armenian blood.
            THANK YOU A LOT. .You really help me.

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            • So can I say to my friends that I am a bit Armenian? (They will hate me more than ever )

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              • I want to know one thing(I asked it).Were Kurds in a desperate situation in WW1?(like my ancestor)

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                • But you dont know if you have ANY Armenian in you and there is a possibility that some of your friends have some Armenian ancestry.

                  Why do you think you have any Armenian in you? Maybe you feel sympathy with Armenians so you are relating yourself to them.

                  Since you have no proof your Armenian why say to people your Armenian? I mean in eastern Turkey Armenians werent the only people there were also Assyrians and long the black sea regions there were many Greeks. What if your part Assyrian? What if your part Greek? You cant tell.

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                  • Originally posted by Bulgarian
                    But you dont know if you have ANY Armenian in you and there is a possibility that some of your friends have some Armenian ancestry.

                    Why do you think you have any Armenian in you? Maybe you feel sympathy with Armenians so you are relating yourself to them.

                    Since you have no proof your Armenian why say to people your Armenian? I mean in eastern Turkey Armenians werent the only people there were also Assyrians and long the black sea regions there were many Greeks. What if your part Assyrian? What if your part Greek? You cant tell.
                    But I think that children whose parents were killed by Ottomans and who had to migrate south and had to be protected by a woman can't have been a Kurd or a Turk,can they?
                    I think only Armenians were in a such desperate situation at those times.(WW1 times ,1915s).Right,Bulgarian?

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                    • Originally posted by Bulgarian
                      Oh RUDO it is highly unlikely you are half Armenian. Unless one of your parents is Armenian or if both your parents are half Armenian. It is possible that you have partial Armenian ancestry but that would only be a small percentage of your makeup.
                      But if Rudo's great great grandfather came from Dersim then he was Armenian, ethnically anyway, if it is accepted that the Dersimli were originally Armenians.
                      Plenipotentiary meow!

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