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  • #131
    Originally posted by ScythianVizier
    I dont think that the Turks did kill 250-500 million people during their rule. Thus, the citizen of the Ottoman Empire were not the slaves or did not live in plantation camps. However, that is not the main plot, I suppose.
    Go back to the time of the first entry of the Turks into Anatolia, and 250-500 million is probably an accurate figure for the number of persons who were either killed, or were never born, as a result of than entry.

    What was the Greek population of Anatolia in, say, 1000 AD? 15 million? What is it now? 10,000? Less?
    If it was 15 million in 1000 AD, it should be at least 150 million now.
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    • #132
      Originally posted by 1.5 million
      I mostly think such things are silly, are ussually (called upon or what hve you) to support inherently racist agendas, and in fact even if used/useful still tell us little aboput the culture/society which IMO is what is really important anyway...we are all mixed and I do not believe in "races" or clear cut distinctions of this sort...
      I do agree with you.

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      • #133
        Originally posted by bell-the-cat
        Go back to the time of the first entry of the Turks into Anatolia, and 250-500 million is probably an accurate figure for the number of persons who were either killed, or were never born, as a result of than entry.

        What was the Greek population of Anatolia in, say, 1000 AD? 15 million? What is it now? 10,000? Less?
        If it was 15 million in 1000 AD, it should be at least 150 million now.
        ...and 250-500 million could have been 2-3 billion right now. The figures I provided was just an aproximation of the toll resulted as a consequence of the colonial expansion and plundering. .

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        • #134
          I am wondering about the total world population at those times!

          Bell about half of the Istanbul population in 1910s(right before the Balkan war, excluding the new immigrants) was non muslim, Armenian Greek and the Jews.

          I think you are aware what you're saying

          You know very well where the Greeks went.

          I think people are gonna ask about those slipped on the road and hurt themselves from us!



          Originally posted by bell-the-cat
          Go back to the time of the first entry of the Turks into Anatolia, and 250-500 million is probably an accurate figure for the number of persons who were either killed, or were never born, as a result of than entry.

          What was the Greek population of Anatolia in, say, 1000 AD? 15 million? What is it now? 10,000? Less?
          If it was 15 million in 1000 AD, it should be at least 150 million now.

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          • #135
            The total Anatolian population in early 20th century is no more than 20 million bell, 1000AD do you think it could've been 15 million?

            IStanbul during the Ottoman period did not exceed 1 million of population, and to be exact it was around 600,000 in early 1900s(I'll try to find the official number by a Yugoslav historian)



            Originally posted by bell-the-cat
            Go back to the time of the first entry of the Turks into Anatolia, and 250-500 million is probably an accurate figure for the number of persons who were either killed, or were never born, as a result of than entry.

            What was the Greek population of Anatolia in, say, 1000 AD? 15 million? What is it now? 10,000? Less?
            If it was 15 million in 1000 AD, it should be at least 150 million now.

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            • #136
              Originally posted by TurQ
              The total Anatolian population in early 20th century is no more than 20 million bell, 1000AD do you think it could've been 15 million?

              IStanbul during the Ottoman period did not exceed 1 million of population, and to be exact it was around 600,000 in early 1900s(I'll try to find the official number by a Yugoslav historian)
              I actually guessed the 15 million figure! However, afterwards, I did some research and, surprise, the figure of 15 million for the population of the Byzantine empire around 1000AD seems to be the one that is recognised by all legitimate historians. That will include what is now Greece of course. So maybe the population of Anatolia and Thrace was about 12 million. That population wouldn't have included most of Armenia of course, since Kars, Ani, Mush, Van, etc., were not part of the Empire.
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              • #137
                Originally posted by bell-the-cat
                Well, if he did leave in 1915 then it must have been because he was Armenian. There would have been no other reason that I can think of, unless his family was an important member of a particular Dersimli tribe whom the Turks considered to be "unreliable" (The Russians did try to gain allies amongst the Kurdish population, or at least to make sure they were neutral).

                But if he left 1917 then he may have left because living there had become impossible because of the closeness of the war.
                I agree with you totally.I don't think there were any other reason to migrate.(especially for children)

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                • #138
                  Originally posted by TurQ
                  His wife is from Siirt, go and find Siirt in your map and tell us her ethnic background ok? and then think if he could hat Kurds.
                  Erdogan's wife you mean ?
                  Well, she could possibly be an Armenian, Assyrian, Kurd or Balkan Turk or just a Turk , that depend on how long time her family was living in Siirt !

                  for those who have no idea where Siirt is, it was in one of the Armenian provencies, near Moush... Siirt is where the 2 branchs of Tigris meet , south-east Anatolia !

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                  • #139
                    Originally posted by RUDO
                    I agree with you totally.I don't think there were any other reason to migrate.(especially for children)
                    And one should keep in mind that Kurdish tribes were strong back then, and even if his family was "wanted" or something, there is no reason that the WHOLE family, even the far relatives just vanish ! I mean, anyone from the tribe could adopted him, knowing EXACTLY who's son was he, or which family he was from, or where did his parents go, tribes members know each other very well..

                    Even some Armenian children were found that way, I mean kids after loosing thier entier families were recognized by other Armenians (older people) that's how some of the survivors know their last names!

                    so Rudo, what about his nose did he have an Armenian like nose (j/k)
                    but if you have a pic of him share it.

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                    • #140
                      so Rudo, what about his nose did he have an Armenian like nose
                      So tell me How Armenians' noses look like?

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