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  • #161
    Originally posted by İ am Turk View Post
    Our teachers said...
    LOL..yeah...thats the ticket...

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    • #162
      Likewise, I too have been frequenting this site for over a year, and have just now registered. Out of curiosity, who here has read "A Shameful Act"? For those who have, tell me, is it just me, or does Akcam deny the Greek Genocide in the beginning of Chapter 4 and then also deny the Assyrian genocide by trying to prove the Armenian genocide, when citing a Talat Pasha telegram in the preface?

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      • #163
        Originally posted by Zane View Post
        Likewise, I too have been frequenting this site for over a year, and have just now registered. Out of curiosity, who here has read "A Shameful Act"? For those who have, tell me, is it just me, or does Akcam deny the Greek Genocide in the beginning of Chapter 4 and then also deny the Assyrian genocide by trying to prove the Armenian genocide, when citing a Talat Pasha telegram in the preface?
        I have the book at home but have yet to read it. If that is what he is trying to contend, I disagree with Akcam. I believe it was a Christian genocide. Assyrians and Greeks of Asia Minor were also targeted and in the case of Assyrians, killed in equal ratios to Armenians. I'll fetch my copy later and give it a read. Thanks Zane....and welcome to the forum.
        General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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        • #164
          Originally posted by Zane View Post
          Likewise, I too have been frequenting this site for over a year, and have just now registered. Out of curiosity, who here has read "A Shameful Act"? For those who have, tell me, is it just me, or does Akcam deny the Greek Genocide in the beginning of Chapter 4 and then also deny the Assyrian genocide by trying to prove the Armenian genocide, when citing a Talat Pasha telegram in the preface?
          I read this last year and don't see it that way, but, I'll re-read it ! The end of chapter 3 gives details of the Greek tragedy, but another read is always worthwhile. He was trying to compare the differences that the war situation made regarding the turk actions against Greeks pre-1914 and Armenians from 1915 on. But another read needed!

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          • #165
            Hello armenians,

            Everybody in turkey think that it was not a genocide. everybody thinks that it was an overreactive defence of turkish soil.

            also Turkish government never,ever will accept the genocide by international force even if all the world accepts it one day.

            Turkey can only accept to what happened to armenians as a genocide if many things can happen all at the same time which is unlikely to happen.

            1. armenian leader must change in coming elections.and new leader must be willing for good neighbourhood relations with turks.
            2.armenia must solve karabag problem with azerbeycan
            3.turkey must become an eu member.
            these are very unlikely to happen in short period.

            ı love my country and ofcourse ı would defend it to last point.

            however ı personally think that what happened to armenians in anatolia is a genocide. even if turks defended the country against to the rebellious armenians ,than why did all the old men and women and children were forced to leave the country.all historic armenian culture is erased from anatolia.
            this shouldnt have happened whatever the reason was.

            more important than this is in my life time,turkish state always showed to nonmuslim minorities of turkey**especially to christians** that they are not wanted people in turkey. and most of them left turkey.

            ı think what happened in anatolia ,greece and armenia was a very very bloody wars of religons. religons only bring blood. ı hate all religons including islam and christianity.

            ı think we are racially brothers with armenians. turks of turkey are also anatolian people with very little turcic blood. ı like armenian people. ı want peace from deep of my heart. but it is difficult for both sides.

            turks are too nationalist and defensive,especially diaspora armenians are too hostile and full of hate.plus azeri problem.

            but even if ,we are enemies with armenians and ı certainly am from turks side, ı respect the struggle of our armenian enemies.

            best regards

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            • #166
              Originally posted by lal View Post
              Hello armenians,

              Everybody in turkey think that it was not a genocide. everybody thinks that it was an overreactive defence of turkish soil.
              You are simply wrong and uninformed .
              "All truth passes through three stages:
              First, it is ridiculed;
              Second, it is violently opposed; and
              Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

              Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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              • #167
                Originally posted by lal View Post
                Hello armenians,



                also Turkish government never,ever will accept the genocide by international force even if all the world accepts it one day.
                Agreed there, but outside pressure is absolutely necessary and the change must be done by Turks to the Turks themselves .
                "All truth passes through three stages:
                First, it is ridiculed;
                Second, it is violently opposed; and
                Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                • #168
                  Originally posted by lal View Post
                  Hello armenians,



                  Turkey can only accept to what happened to armenians as a genocide if many things can happen all at the same time which is unlikely to happen.

                  1. armenian leader must change in coming elections.and new leader must be willing for good neighbourhood relations with turks.
                  2.armenia must solve karabag problem with azerbeycan
                  3.turkey must become an eu member.
                  these are very unlikely to happen in short period.

                  ı love my country and ofcourse ı would defend it to last point.
                  1,2 and 3 are academic if one thing happened in Turkey, freedom to its people from opression and censurship !without that, your formula is pre-mature.
                  "All truth passes through three stages:
                  First, it is ridiculed;
                  Second, it is violently opposed; and
                  Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                  Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                  • #169
                    Originally posted by lal View Post

                    however ı personally think that what happened to armenians in anatolia is a genocide. even if turks defended the country against to the rebellious armenians ,than why did all the old men and women and children were forced to leave the country.all historic armenian culture is erased from anatolia.
                    this shouldnt have happened whatever the reason was.

                    more important than this is in my life time,turkish state always showed to nonmuslim minorities of turkey**especially to christians** that they are not wanted people in turkey. and most of them left turkey.
                    This is why we're abroad.
                    "All truth passes through three stages:
                    First, it is ridiculed;
                    Second, it is violently opposed; and
                    Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                    Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                    • #170
                      Originally posted by lal View Post

                      ı think what happened in anatolia ,greece and armenia was a very very bloody wars of religons. religons only bring blood. ı hate all religons including islam and christianity.

                      ı think we are racially brothers with armenians. turks of turkey are also anatolian people with very little turcic blood. ı like armenian people. ı want peace from deep of my heart. but it is difficult for both sides.

                      turks are too nationalist and defensive,especially diaspora armenians are too hostile and full of hate.plus azeri problem.

                      but even if ,we are enemies with armenians and ı certainly am from turks side, ı respect the struggle of our armenian enemies.

                      best regards
                      Welcome, we must overcome.
                      "All truth passes through three stages:
                      First, it is ridiculed;
                      Second, it is violently opposed; and
                      Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                      Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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