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    Bad news boys and girls. It appears Ataturks statue in Israel has been unveiled. It was suppose to be in Jerusalem but ended up in Beersheba due to protest from rabies. Didn't the Ottomans also kill Jews? I thought so. Is there anything this Israeli government wouldn’t due to please the Turks to benefit themselves? They are also selling truck loads of weapons to Azeris.

    How do you join the tashnaks

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    Ataturk statue to go up in Beersheba

    Ataturk statue to go up in Beersheba

    Sep. 11, 2008
    Miriam Bulwar David-Hay (Translated) , THE JERUSALEM POST

    In a move that may raise eyebrows, the city of Beersheba has announced that it will place a statue commemorating Turkish leader Mustafa Kemal Ataturk next to a memorial commemorating the Allied soldiers he fought against during World War One, reports www.local.co.il. And with questionable timing, the statue will be officially unveiled on October 31, immediately after the annual ceremony takes place commemorating the victory of Australian forces over the Turks at Beersheba in 1917.

    According to the report, Beersheba Mayor Yaakov Turner met with Turkish ambassador Namik Tan and announced that they had reached an agreement to commemorate Ataturk, the famed Turkish military officer who went on to become the founder of modern Turkey. Ataturk first became known after defeating the Allies at the disastrous Battle of Gallipoli in 1915, in which some 44,000 Allied soldiers were killed and 97,000 were wounded. Most of those soldiers came from Great Britain, Australia and New Zealand, and the Gallipoli debacle is still a sore point in those countries.

    Ataturk was feted by his countrymen for his victory at Gallipoli and went on to further military commands during the war. After the Ottoman Empire was ultimately defeated, he became instrumental in the creation of the independent republic of Turkey. Ataturk became the republic's first president in 1923 and instituted wide-ranging modernizing reforms until his death in 1938 at the age of 57.

    But although he was respected even by his enemies, the timing and the placing of Ataturk's statue next to the Australians' memorial may be frowned upon by some. On October 31, 1917, mounted troops from the Australia and New Zealand Army Corps (ANZAC's) captured the city from the Turks, one of the last successful cavalry charges in history. Although the Turkish ambassador said he was pleased with the statue, no comment was reported from Australian officials.
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    • #3
      any chance we might get a photo of this statue?
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Hovik View Post
        any chance we might get a photo of this statue?
        http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5JdnqGEu1kw

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        • #5
          Steph
          What a sorry azz statue. All I need is my truck and my rope.

          Hovik
          I expect strong reaction from Australians and New Zealanders. Anzac day is very big in Australia where I lived for two years. It is in fact a national holiday. Over 8,000 Australian and 2,700 New Zealand soldiers died. Though the Gallipoli campaign failed in its military objectives of capturing Istanbul and knocking Turkey out of the war, the Australian and New Zealand troops' actions during the campaign bequeathed an intangible but powerful legacy. I believe that was the last successful cavalry charges made during the War.

          Wait a minute; does this reinforce the theory that Mustafa Kemal was indeed a gay Jewish dictator who prayed to a false prophet from the 16th century?


          What are these Turks trying to achieve by putting Ataturk’s statue all around the world, asks my wife?

          “To serve as an enormous propaganda coup in furtherance of the Turkish state's doctrine of denial and a validation of its militocracy, but to also signal a policy of “subjects (Armenians, Greeks…” subordination to Turkish military ascendancy and regional authority.” By P. D. Spyropoulos (A Greek). Executive Director American Hellenic Media Project.
          I think this Greek brother has a point.

          BTW, this one will kill you guys.
          The EJC (European Jewish Congress) President Moshe Kantor stated that Turkey is a model of tolerance.

          http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...614663,00.html

          Well, excuse me while I choke.

          How does someone join the Tashnaks guys? I am serious

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Edoman View Post
            Steph
            What a sorry azz statue. All I need is my truck and my rope.
            The reports that turkey have deployed a squadron of crack snipers to deal with any recalcitrant pigeons dropping their loads in Beersheba may, or not, be totally fabricated.

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            • #7
              Well

              Originally posted by steph View Post
              The reports that turkey have deployed a squadron of crack snipers to deal with any recalcitrant pigeons dropping their loads in Beersheba may, or not, be totally fabricated.
              There are uses for the statue, we can give him a cop's hat, a cigar, dress a bikini on him. All kinds of fun things to do with the statue (plus it makes a great hat stand)
              ¡Tierra y Libertad!

              Zapata

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              • #8
                Originally posted by steph View Post
                The reports that turkey have deployed a squadron of crack snipers to deal with any recalcitrant pigeons dropping their loads in Beersheba may, or not, be totally fabricated.
                I tied my hope to the pigeons... They will do their mission, i hope
                [B]Fiat justitia, et pereat mundus[/B]

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Edoman View Post
                  Didn't the Ottomans also kill Jews?
                  Are you kidding or don’t you know anything about relationship between Jews and Turks that had begun centuries ago? But I am not surprised because you have been just interested in negative cases of Turkish history.

                  Anyways, Ottomans didn’t kill Jews, on the contrary, they helped them in some ways a few times.

                  For example:

                  When The Oueen of Spain made Sefarad Jews (Jews of Spain) drive away from her country in 1492, Ottoman Empire was the only state that admitted them, also made them Ottoman citizens.

                  And during the WW II a lot of Jews, especially from France, were brought to Turkey on trains to prevent them from Nazis, or they ran away from some European countries to the Ottoman soils. Don’t believe everything that is told about Ottomans, Turkey or Ataturk, especially on internet.

                  So, isn’t this thought provoking? Ottomans, even Turkey, tried to prevent Jews and also, untill the last half of 19th century, they had no problem with Armenians, but suddenly everything changed and ended with the events of 1915.

                  And it is an absurd thing for a country to have Ataturk's statue somewhere in their cities.

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                  • #10
                    (((So, isn’t this thought provoking? Ottomans, even Turkey, tried to prevent Jews and also, untill the last half of 19th century, they had no problem with Armenians, but suddenly everything changed and ended with the events of 1915.)))

                    I wonder why??? Hmmmmm *snore*
                    THE ROAD TO FREEDOM AND JUSTICE IS A LONG ONE!

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