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Re: Ataturks statue in Israel
.... instead it needs to repent in honor.
.... instead it needs to repent in honor.
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Second, it is violently opposed; and
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Re: Ataturks statue in Israel
Evil republics/states/nations/races exist in tales/legends/fantasy-fiction books, not in real world.Originally posted by Gavur View PostComment
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Re: Ataturks statue in Israel
Gegev, please, we can discuss without referring to unnecessary/loosely based analogies.Originally posted by gegev View Post
What is the connection between my idea of a non-existing absolute evil country/race/nation/etc with your idea of existence of intellectual country/race/nation/etc?
I like chess a lot but do the ranking of chess players tell a level of a whole country/race/nation/etc? Do you really believe any absolute feature for a large group of human beings?
"...in our real world, as opposed to yours"
Believe me, if you agree with me (or another Turkish) about a subject you won't lose your Armenian-ness. We do not have to be at the opposite sides all the time. There is no need to be continuously "opposed"...
However, if you really believe in inherent good and evil features of a group of humans by birth, then we have more serious problems...Last edited by may; 09-10-2009, 01:49 PM.Comment
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Re: Ataturks statue in Israel
No, Fascist were not born that way, we can agree on that.
Infact they need to be abolished as an official party for their support of terorrism.Last edited by Gavur; 09-10-2009, 07:38 PM."All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident."
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I don't see any attempt to repent from the Kemilists......more like illusions of grandure mixed with a severe identity crisis. How many types of Turks are there? Crasy stuff, but Gavur I am starting to see the deep meaning of what you mean,Originally posted by Gavur View Post
Dear may, what is your definition and qualification of the word Evil when it comes to us earthlings?B0zkurt HunterComment
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Re: Ataturks statue in Israel
Eddo, there is surely definitions for all words in any language, it is just a matter of looking up a dictionary. My concern is: How one feature/word can be attributed to a large number of people by birth?Originally posted by Eddo211 View PostComment
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Re: Ataturks statue in Israel
Its a shame 29 years later the fascist generals
still haven't been asked to account for the cruel coupe against the people.
Mr.Kenan (cellad) Evren boasts that in the interest of justice they executed both the right and the leftist inclined victims.
12 Eylül 1980
12 Eylül 2009 29 yıl oldu...
Hala hesap soramadık...Hala 12 Eylül devam ediyor...Yazıklar olsun..."All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident."
Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)Comment
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Re: Ataturks statue in Israel
How can they forget 171 that died from being tortured, 50 that was hanged, total of 3,315 years and 6 months prison terms handed out to members of the press, total of 915 films banned, not a single newspaper could be published for 300 straight days, broadcasts were banned, 30 metre ton's of publications were destroyed. This was not the Turkish peoples doing, this was the doing of a evil state called TR.
Should the people forget this open account too?????Last edited by Gavur; 09-12-2009, 12:00 AM."All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident."
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Re: Ataturks statue in Israel
Originally posted by Gavur View PostNo, Fascist were not born that way, we can agree on that.
Infact they need to be abolished as an official party for their support of terorrism.
The Turkish nationalists refuse to discussing the Armenian issue
The Foreign Minister of Turkey Ahmed Davudoghlu had informed beforehand that he was going to discuss the settlement of the relations with Armenia before the parliament would start the works with the political parties of the country, and had expressed his desire to meet the leaders of the political parties of the country.
The Turkish “Sabah” newspaper informs that of the opposition parties, that gave a positive answer to the suggestion of Davudoghlu, were the Democratic-Republican and “Democratic society” parties. The “Natioanlist” party has refused that suggestion. The latter is the wing of Turkish extremist party called “Grey wolves”.
The launch of the signed records of inner political discussions with Armenia was the meeting of Davudoghlu and Mahmet Ali Shahin the Speaker of Turkish parliament. After the close door meeting that lasted for 1 hour Davudoghlu answered the questions of the journalists. He explained that he had a very interesting discussion about the regional developments, improvement of the relations with Armenia, the present situation of NKR conflict and the relations realized in the Near East.
“In the external policy we are especially interested in the developments in Caucasus and the improvement of the relations with Armenia. Till now I have presented all the works implemented in this direction to Mister Shahin. This will also be discussed with the public. We are ready to discuss all the records with the political parties and public organizations”, - Davudoghlu said.
"All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident."
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