Let us all reason, for the well being of humanity.

[Anonymouse]

And see what the Turks have done to it.
Like here:
Surp Grigor
Varzahan
Khtzkonk
Tekor
Arakelots
Adilcevaz

Hey bell the cat, you aren't Armenian are you? I seem to recall you saying you aren't and I am wondering what your ethnicity is.

[ArmoBarbi]

English is my second language too actually. I spent my childhood in Azerbaijan and Russia. That excuse doesn't work on me. I didn't say I don't understand you. I always understand people even if their grammar is terrible. It's called figuring things out. Anyway, this is a nonissue.

As for your US Armenians hypothesis: I have been to Armenia, and five other countries, and I pay attention to international news, I know exactly how the world views the Genocide. Living in the US alone does not prevent people from knowing the truth. That can happen in any country (ie even Turkey). Most Armenians on this forum are well aware of world issues and world views. Don't you worry about that.

Don't think my goal is to attack you. I think it's a bit sad that you have to get your "fun" this way. That's all.

[thinktwice]

Then enlighen us, oh unthinkingtwice one. What were the purposes, remits, methods of recording, and ranges of the "Ottoman archives" at the time they were being compiled? And what vicissitudes of history have they undergone since their compilation?

We all know the purpose of archives "to enlighten history". But twisted minds like you don't ever want to see real arabic papers...

You are denying real archives in every means possible. I think you are the one and the worst of humankind. I didn't ever meet people like you...

[Anonymouse]

We all know the purpose of archives "to enlighten history". But twisted minds like you don't ever want to see real arabic papers...

You are denying real archives in every means possible. I think you are the one and the worst of humankind. I didn't ever meet people like you...

Poor little Turk, do yourself a favor and quit while you can. No one buys your Turkish government stamped bromide here.

[bell-the-cat]

We all know the purpose of archives "to enlighten history". But twisted minds like you don't ever want to see real arabic papers...

You are denying real archives in every means possible. I think you are the one and the worst of humankind. I didn't ever meet people like you...

You could have answered my question about the Ottoman Archives by just saying "I don't know". Instead you chose to proudly wear the mantle of idiocy like your pal Cemil.

[thinktwice]

English is my second language too actually. I spent my childhood in Azerbaijan and Russia. That excuse doesn't work on me. I didn't say I don't understand you. I always understand people even if their grammar is terrible. It's called figuring things out. Anyway, this is a nonissue.

As for your US Armenians hypothesis: I have been to Armenia, and five other countries, and I pay attention to international news, I know exactly how the world views the Genocide. Living in the US alone does not prevent people from knowing the truth. That can happen in any country (ie even Turkey). Most Armenians on this forum are well aware of world issues and world views. Don't you worry about that.

Don't think my goal is to attack you. I think it's a bit sad that you have to get your "fun" this way. That's all.

You are living in US but i don't think that you are aware of world's view and the truths about your so-called genocide. It is just a political material in infamous countries.

Oh actually i'm worrying about you because your mindless so-called genocide are going to crash one day and nobody will be your side...

And other guys you really amazing. If the "denial" is the case you are the absolute winner.

For you, go and check out some real archives instead of your brainwashing

[winoman]

winoman-
But you have already claimed that the Armenian genocide never happened and that I am a believer of fables. You hae made it plain that you will consider anything that acknowledges the claim of genocide as biased in favor of the Armenian position.

Reasonable man are not like rock, not static. He changes over time. I am serious for learning. You can change me. Sticking to fables, though they were refuted, is not virtue. I am asking you for help to help me Armenian standpoint: Documents, analysis all ok. All those Turks you quoting were once denialists, at least in their youth age. They have changed, so why dont i? One Turk believing/recognizing ArmenianGenocide is more important than many non-Turkish genocide believers.

You can show your diffirence by being reasonable and polite.

Regards.

I think that your attitude here is a ruse. You have already shown your mind is made up when you called my beliefs fables without (admittedly) knowing the first thing about what it is I believe and why. You are here to deny the genocide just like your idiot friends Cemil ("If I only had a Brain") and NoThinkTurk. I just made several posts where a number of interesting points where raised and your only response is that these people (The Turks) were once denialists? ...you have proof of that? not that it matters - it is an irrelevant point. These individuals are engaged in honest scholarship and analysis - regardless of Bell the Cat's claims - and I wont bother to go into his biases and issues. A thinking person would have some response to Ackam and bertay's insightful analysis. A thinking and feeling person would ponder the findings and verdict of the UN peoples tribunal and consider the words of all these and ponder what they are saying concerning Turkey and about what happened to the Armenians and an honest thinking person might consider that the various claims made by the turkish government in the face of all of this may in fact be self-seving, quite dishonest and perhaps even criminal - eh? So prove to me you are this person you claim and not just another robo-turk who has come to these forums spoutinf stupidities and looking foolish and ugly.

[winoman]

emil - don't kid yourself and don't insult our intellignce - Ataturk never wrote anything so poorly in his life!

NoThinkTurk - gobble gobble gobble ! Yup - you haven't a clue concerning yoru archives.Sarfian and Ackam have both written extensively documenting how the Ottoman Archives are controlled in a manner that causes them to noty be considered "open" in any streatch of the immagination. Additionally the answers are not neceissarily in those archives as they were never a complete archives to begin with - and the recordkeeping has been typical Turk - if not blatently doctored certainly ineptly handled...but at least regardign the latter they are still aparently sloppy and ignorant enough to not even understand what they have there...

And Bell the Cat - I assure you - truth is much stranger then fiction and you haven't a clue (though I found your misinterpretations funny - as seen through your own lens without having properly listened or digested what I said - a problem that you obvioulsy have in other areas as well...). Besides I would never be troubled with something as petty as Kosovo - all I did was offer some policy advice to those who were possibly in a position to act on (recommend) it. Not that they would ever go for something so outside the box - no matter...a potential solution to the problem was at hand - just none understood...cest la vie...

[TomServo]

You are living in US but i don't think that you are aware of world's view and the truths about your so-called genocide. It is just a political material in infamous countries.

Oh actually i'm worrying about you because your mindless so-called genocide are going to crash one day and nobody will be your side...

And other guys you really amazing. If the "denial" is the case you are the absolute winner.

For you, go and check out some real archives instead of your brainwashing

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[thinktwice]