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  • #61
    Originally posted by winoman
    unworthy of comment - you deluded idiot
    Of course, call someone idiot when you can't answer.
    Poor you.

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    • #62
      Of course no Turks will ever actually attempt to answer any question I pose - wonder why that is?....

      Pamuk is a poet. He is only expressing what many Turks know and feel. He has no ties to any Armenians as far as i know. So whats your point?

      As for the other Turkish scholars - they are clearly concerned about the future of Turkey - if you read them and could understand what they are saying you would realize this....

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      • #63
        Originally posted by vatepiti
        Of course, call someone idiot when you can't answer.
        Poor you.
        Your simpleton level of (lack of) understanding of this issue prevents you from reading the many posts I have made in answer to these sorts of Turkish alegations. But nooo - you obviously can't read or reason it seem - so why should I bother repeating myself again...

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        • #64
          pffffff...

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          • #65
            Originally posted by eMachine
            pffffff...
            no response eh? I repeat - Have you ever read Berktay or Ackam? What are your comments on the issues that they raise? BTW I have posted exerpts from their work on this forum and other material is availble at various places. I have also already addressed all of the issues - every one - that you Turks have brought up on this forum.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by winoman
              Your simpleton level of (lack of) understanding of this issue prevents you from reading the many posts I have made in answer to these sorts of Turkish alegations. But nooo - you obviously can't read or reason it seem - so why should I bother repeating myself again...
              If so please answer, I send it again:
              You claimed Turkey banned a conference, implied Turkey is a dictatorship. And when I answered as below you just called me idiot. If you honestly stand your previous comments please answer these. Otherwise I don't like playing with words.



              There are two things that you like to behave.
              1. Playing the victim and equest symphaty from western world.
              2. Related to this, show Turks barbarian.
              I can't struggle with your prejudices about Turks and Turkey.
              I can say that no PM in Turkey is cancelled any conference. Besides that, nowadays it is ambitiously argued in Turkey whether 1915 was a genocide. And none of the academicians, intellectuals, etc. advocating your ideas are forced to anything.
              There are a lot of Armenian writers books advocating your ideas translated and published in Turkey. People can freely read them. (Dadrian, Morgenthau,etc.)
              But whatever I say will not change your minds and you will continue to parrot same stereotype like Turks are barbarians, they killed us, poor us,etc.

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              • #67
                vatepiti -

                read my various posts on this issue - that is my answer.

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                • #68
                  ok wow, first of all RedBrigade's first post about what needs to be done in Armenia is exactly right. Those are the first steps to truly strengethening our country and giving the people the desire to act out and become genuinely productive and happy.
                  Second of all, we don't need to argue with a bunch of Turks, all they do is spew a bunch of crap and then eventually admit to the Genocide in some way or other.
                  Don't even bother trying to argue with them, their all just dumb 19 year olds with an internet connection. (edit: that was a little harsh, Otto for one is a cool Turk.)
                  Third of all I made this thread to prove that Armenians don't want revenge per say, they want to make themeselves better, the first two poll choices were direct quotes of what "Armenian" said. The last choice was what I said, to prove that it would get more votes, and that Armenians will give a nice screw you we don't need you to Turkey. This thread was not a joke, nor an attempt to start an argument.
                  Last edited by Thai-Samurai; 05-26-2005, 07:47 AM.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by winoman
                    no response eh? I repeat - Have you ever read Berktay or Ackam? What are your comments on the issues that they raise? BTW I have posted exerpts from their work on this forum and other material is availble at various places. I have also already addressed all of the issues - every one - that you Turks have brought up on this forum.
                    Have you?
                    Berktay is not an Ottoman historian. He even don't know Ottoman language.
                    Akcam is worse, he even is not an historian.
                    Bernard Lewis is one of the most respectful historian of Ottomans. And you solicidet for denying genocide.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by winoman
                      no response eh? I repeat - Have you ever read Berktay or Ackam? What are your comments on the issues that they raise? BTW I have posted exerpts from their work on this forum and other material is availble at various places. I have also already addressed all of the issues - every one - that you Turks have brought up on this forum.
                      i havent brought anything up, if you check my last messages =) but i still say pffff...
                      why?
                      because im gonna write something, then you will reply, he will reply, somebody else will answer, other user will swear, another blahblah...
                      i mean it never ends...
                      forums and cyber-communities are always unrealistic and childis. owners creats communities for to please theirselves. users and topic... like few thousand users. then proves to googles and put ads to overall header of the forum...

                      just got bored, i really prefer to talk about chinese food. ok if you want revenge, just do it, if you can... you are talking about impossible... i got fun of this forum already. it bugs you but its fun. its also fun for you too. nice. which cartoons you armenians wathcing? wonderwoman? batman? or watching some Rambo, or Terminator movies? then planning revenge... f*ck it =))

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