Do you want revenge?

[winoman]

it is more valuable to accept the genocide without EU pushing us for me...being free Emachine mentioned is this..besides you KNOW it is gonna give us a great area to maneuveur.... personaly i am fed up EU crap..i dont want to go in there... really bored of them and 5 years from now on you will see Turkey closing the talks if it goes like that.... Europa is a better place without us nad we are better without them....lets trade and no more...

Yes it would be nice to be able to admit these things without outside pressure - Turkey is so way not there yet on this though...

EU is good for Turkey - regardless if it causes yousome pain - it is good pain - sometimes good things are not possible without a little pain - such as birth of a child. Turkey needs to go through some birthing pains to become an adult as a nation. It may happen - but your MGK doesn't want it to - because then they are gone. They are happy to have Europe oppose Turkish membership - it gives them somebody to blame for the failure - and all is normal in Turkey....

[winoman]

no accusation.... you asked ""where i attacked your personal identity " and the answer is:by saying "you killed people" to a peaciful raised Turkish man it is already a accusation...

my english knowledge is decreasing constantly

When did I accuse you of killing anyone?

You have accused Armenians of all sorts of nasty intentions when all we want is recognition of the truth and of the legitimacy of our pain.

[Otto]

EU is good for Turkey - regardless if it causes yousome pain - it is good pain - sometimes good things are not possible without a little pain - such as birth of a child. .

ok momma i am gonna take my pills

i agree the rest...but feeling bored..and still dont wanna go in EU .. bored people are dangerous people... they look for excitement you know...

[winoman]

my vatepiti friend i should tell you i am older then you are here and we all talked about those and Winomen is a hard rock hard to crack..he always have answers to all kind of questions and quick to evade them like saying " i do not go into politics just the scholar side" so give up i say...

and winoman you are right about those people who gets us into trouble in the first place....nice point of approach...

by the way you attacked our identity bay saying genocide because Turkish population identity based on being good and being peacifull (government teaches us that in the school)... we are all raised like that...but government goes offensive outside Turkey and also at the same time plays the innocent inside... so when you say genocide to people who are fed with stories of being good these drive them crazy because they are so surprised and confused... for example lets say in US they dont teach kids about Atomb bomb... when a Japaneese comes and tells you about it..i think firs reaction would be come on this is a lie...

I understand now BTW.

Yes - Peace at home and peace in the world...

[winoman]

ok momma i am gonna take my pills

i agree the rest...but feeling bored..and still dont wanna go in EU .. bored people are dangerous people... they look for excitement you know...

seems like in Turkey of late they are looking to Islam...

[Otto]

we should exchange msn addresses...

i prefer domination by Armenians to islam...

i dont like to admit it but mostly Turks prefers to go where the money is...

[eMachine]

seems like in Turkey of late they are looking to Islam...

islam is not strong as iran have, you know, your best arab friends, iranians. if there 90 % muslim exist, its big bloody lie, it is just in formalities, 40% of Turkey doesnt believes anything, atheist or anything else such as satanic, some other weird ethnics etc...

Turkey is not an islamic country. Turkish Army is already against islamic actions and officially says "Turkey is not islamic Country!"
it was just in headlines in Turkey few weeks ago, "Hilmi Özkök" said as an authorized of Army

[eMachine]

we should exchange msn addresses...

i prefer domination by Armenians to islam...

i dont like to admit it but mostly Turks prefers to go where the money is...

to budha maybe...

[Otto]

yeah long live the ARMY.... they just chopp off islamic heads and send them to heaven where they are trying very hard to go..and then we will have to deal with islam genocide

[vatepiti]

Besides official government propoganda it seems that almost half of the Armenian polulation is died at 1915. And the other half who survived are mostly migrate to USA, Canada, France, Argentina, Armenia, etc. Only 1/10 is stayed at Anatolia.
The ones who died are either killed by some groups who are freed from prisons and established to join deportation. Some died at roads from disease and starvation because deportation turned to a dead walk. Some Kurdish groups attacked the convoys to steal Armenians’ money. Goverment has lost the control and deportation has turned to a massacre.
Even CUP leaders didn’t know what was happening.
May I ask you a question? Did you read Talat’s memories? In that memories he says if I translate correctly: “Armenians’ deportatio would turn to a disaster with the hands of some vile and cruel people.
Those what I said is not a government propoganda. I admit that a big massacre happened.
What I don't accept is the word genocide. Because there is only one genocide happened at history and it was at ww2. You like to feel as victim which is turned to your identity and western states use this genocide card not that they love you but to threaten Turkey and to lower the deep shame of what all Europe did or allowed at ww2.
BTW I live in Ankara and there is no Talat picture or anything related with Talat. Stop dreaming stereotypes again please.