Questions Of Genocide

[cemil]

Turks must have respect for somethings, such as if Turkey's existance caused some people to leave thir homelands.

There is languages, traditions, music, food etc..shared by all people of anatolia.. if some of them had to leave here, and normally feel homesick, Turks must respect this situation and dont have ignorant enmity.

Nothing more than that, there is nothing to talk under title genocide.

[winoman]

Turks must have respect for somethings, such as if Turkey's existance caused some people to leave thir homelands.

There is languages, traditions, music, food etc..shared by all people of anatolia.. if some of them had to leave here, and normally feel homesick, Turks must respect this situation and dont have ignorant enmity.

Nothing more than that, there is nothing to talk under title genocide.

Saying that there is nothing to talk concerning Genocide is not at all respectful to Armenians and it also displyas an ignorance based on national/racial pride that flys in the face of all evidence. I agree that the peoples of Anatolia shared much in common - for many hundreds of years - interacted daily and were all citizens of the same Ottoman Empire. I consider my own background practically as much Ottoman (in a sense) as Armenian - sort of - Anatolian certainly. Anyway - unfortunatly Turks did a bit more then drive people from their homes - certainly they did this - and in great numbers - but they mercilessly killed and slaughtered a great many as well - and for dubious reasons that had little to do with any provocation on the part of the Armenians and other Christians - and certainly not due to any military provocation - this is a lie and distortion. If you wish our respect and the respect of humanity - you will make an attempt to look at these events and understand them - seperate the propoganda claims from the facts - and make a real heartfelt outreach to Armenians understanding what occured to all of us based on your nation's descent into depravity, paranoia and desperation.

[Otto]

Well nowadays not the "islamic government" but you are the extremist people in Turkey. And I thing that AKP is far away better than what we saw before, Tansu Ciller, Mesut Yilmaz, Devlet Bahceli, etc.

you will see what is AKP...you know sometimes i wish we killed 1.5 muslims instead of armenians... we would be in a better shape by now... corretction..all of them in a row would work maybe (not Armenians)

[karoaper]

you will see what is AKP...you know sometimes i wish we killed 1.5 muslims instead of armenians... we would be in a better shape by now... corretction..all of them in a row would work maybe (not Armenians)

The problem is not Islam. The problem is the Turkish mindset that hasn't evolved from the nomadic, kill-as-you-go, subjicate-all-others culture. Armenia was under muslim Arabs for 400 years. It was considered one of the more peaceful times in our History. Not one forced conversion, not one conversion of a church to a mosque, not one massacre. We as people were respected. Turks rather than be changed by Islam gave their own iterpretation to it. Even Islam was something just for the Turks. That explains why your country brought with it the end to the golden age of Islam, by sucking the life out of all the other regions of the empire. The first thing you do when you enter Constantinople is change Haigha Sofia into a mosque. This is very wrong according to islam. And 100s such conversions have happened through out your history. The fact remains that Turks from the get-go caused a HUGE clash of civilizations in the whole region. So, please don't blame it on something external (as usual). Don't pretend that it was Islam that corrupted the benevolent Turkish heart. It was the other way around.

[Siggie]

You're an idiot. No more needs to be said. Except that it may be genetic. Hence nothing you can do about it.

Read the rules that are posted in the announcements forum. Insult people again and you'll be suspended.

[bell-the-cat]

you will see what is AKP...you know sometimes i wish we killed 1.5 muslims instead of armenians... we would be in a better shape by now... corretction..all of them in a row would work maybe (not Armenians)

Reminds me of the time I was with a group of American Armenians outside a derelict Armenian church in a village near Malatya now lived in by Kurds. One of the American women gave some sweets to 2 or 3 little children who were hanging around the minibus, looking cute and curious. Within minutes there were about 100 children and teenagers mobbing around the minibus, grasping for sweets and money. She said to me "I wonder if the Turks now think 'maybe we killed the wrong ones' ".

[bell-the-cat]

Armenia was under muslim Arabs for 400 years. It was considered one of the more peaceful times in our History. Not one forced conversion, not one conversion of a church to a mosque, not one massacre. We as people were respected.

That is just jaw-droppingly inaccurate.

[karoaper]

That is just jaw-droppingly inaccurate.

That is just a jaw-droppingly abscure and general statement. It would help to specify which part was not accurate, rather than deal in dramatics.

[bell-the-cat]

Well, what I wrote before were about the inferiority complexes, identity problems and obsessive Turkish hatred and racism of diasporan Armenians.

And I thought that what you wrote before revealed your nation's inferiority complexes, identity problems and obsessive hatred of and racism against Armenians (and against anyone Turkey disagrees with).

[bell-the-cat]

That is just a jaw-droppingly abscure and general statement. It would help to specify which part was not accurate, rather than deal in dramatics.

It is your statement that was both general and non-specific! Read any basic history book and you will see that the long Arab occupation of Armenia was anything but a paradise. Or don't read, and remain in "abscurity".