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Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance
Well, the flow of information on the ADL controversy has been reduced to a trickle but the broader philosophical discussion on the Armenian genocide issue continues and is mostly controlled by Israeli Pro-Turkish activist and a Turkish contributor and the Turkish contributors appear much more rational and realistic. The Israeli activist is citing to other internet cites.
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In the whole realpolitik arena re: American J-ewish lobby enforcing policy consistent with J-ewish safety primarily, two great questions remain unanswered:
What value does the U.S. J-ewish lobby place on Iranian J-ewish lives when it demonizes Ahmadenijad as Hitler through major media channels for having a Holocaust symposium?
What value does the lobby have on Armenian J-ews when Lebanese Armenians are displaced b/c of indiscriminate bombing of Lebanon by Israel during the Summer of 2006 for two Israeli soldiers and must move to Armenia?
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And the great story that has not really been reported on is how American foreign policy in Iraq (which may have been molded through the influence of the U.S. J-ewish lobby) actually marginaled christian minorities in Iraq requiring them to flee? Some of these Christians were likely ancestors of genocide survivors who were forcibly marched out of Turkey into the Middle East.
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Another interesting question is why does the pro-Holocaust recognition lobby believe that the Holocaust should be recognized at the political level but the Armenian genocide should not?
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Didn't Hitler and the Nazi ruling party identify J-ews as a source of Germany's economic woes before it was decided to round em up like cattle and ship them to their death?
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And, finally, too bad we have such strong relations with Turkey that they are infringing into Northern Iraq and inciting hostilities with Iraqi kurds. The kurds at least are relatively capable
You know why weapons of mass destruction cannot be found in Iraq because the U.S. supplied a lot of them to Iraq during the Iraq-Iran war. Funny how know one talks about WMDs anymore. Doh!!!
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Now, for the evening's press ticker:
(Israeli newspaper publishes article detailing a bad summer for Holocaust commemoration; cites several examples - Russia, Berlin, Budapest, Poland, the Vatican - cemetery tombstone desecrations worldwide -in Israel, government set reparations at 83 shekels/mo. and the government identified ancestors of victims, refugees and those thought fought against Germany - Holocaust survivors for the political purpose of the ruling party and refused Darfur refugees contrary to the actions of J-ewish organizations internationally - esp. U.S. - who are at forefront of political and public relations for genocide survivors in Darfur; points out Israel's lack of sensitivity on Armenian genocde to preserve relations with Turkey and uniqueness of Holocaust and points to J-ewish author that wrote the 40 days of Musa Dagh of pre-Holocaust example of sensitivity to Armenian tragedy; all in all a very harsh critique of Israel re: what Dershowitz would call its "cognitive dissonance")
(Israeli newspaper publishes terribly flawed and misguided opinion of former adviser to Turkish embassy and Pro-Israeli activist re: What xxxs should do about Turkey and Armenia; cites to his own literary and internet achievements re: pro-Israeli activities to bolster his credibility; understands why Turkey and Turks deny the Armenian genocide; attributes the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Muslims and thousands of J-ews to Armenians; opines that Israel and U.S. J-ews must tread lightly concerning claims of genocide b/c Armenians are spreading rumors that J-ews organized the 1915 events - that Armenians massacred 2.5 Armenian muslims between 1914-1920 - Armenians massacring 3000 Azeri mountain j-ews in 1918 - and Armenians massacring hundreds of Azeri muslims in 1992; claims that both sides have tales and denials; concludes that U.S. and J-ews should encourage both sides to conduct examination objectively of those events as this is when nations mature)
Didn't seem like this was the path Germany was given to resolve the Holocaust. The rules always seem to change when its in the favor of protecting the Holocaust's uniqueness. Seems to be an important tenet of Zionism. We are entitled, they are not.
(Journal of Turkish Strategy Thinktank publishes opinion piece promoting new dialogue on genocide issue; claims tha ADL controversy highlights that Turkey needs to come clean b/c Turkish J-ews writing to U.S. J-ewish lobby regarding the resolution jeopardizing their safety is not glowing testimonial of Turkish democratic maturity; opines that Turkey and the public fail to recognize that the genocide battle has already been lost in the West partly b/c Turkey's unrelenting position has left them looking like an uncompromising,authoritarian state that has created a taboo; basically, blames Turkey for the loss on the issue in U.S. and concludes that Turkey should apologize indicating that territorial and financial compensation are out the question)
(Same journal publishes different opinion piece by same contributor above re: life after the Armenian resolution; opines that public opinion in D.C. is that it is a foregone conclusion that Congress will recognize the genocide and as such Turkish US relations shall require damage control and crisis management; resolution is wholly about US domestic policy and little to do with shaky Turkish American relations recenty related to Turkey's tepid support of Bush administration in Middle East; Turkey is to blame for the death of the genocide issue for stifling 'free' debate on the issue and lack of organized, educated Turkish-American lobby)
Well, the flow of information on the ADL controversy has been reduced to a trickle but the broader philosophical discussion on the Armenian genocide issue continues and is mostly controlled by Israeli Pro-Turkish activist and a Turkish contributor and the Turkish contributors appear much more rational and realistic. The Israeli activist is citing to other internet cites.
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In the whole realpolitik arena re: American J-ewish lobby enforcing policy consistent with J-ewish safety primarily, two great questions remain unanswered:
What value does the U.S. J-ewish lobby place on Iranian J-ewish lives when it demonizes Ahmadenijad as Hitler through major media channels for having a Holocaust symposium?
What value does the lobby have on Armenian J-ews when Lebanese Armenians are displaced b/c of indiscriminate bombing of Lebanon by Israel during the Summer of 2006 for two Israeli soldiers and must move to Armenia?
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And the great story that has not really been reported on is how American foreign policy in Iraq (which may have been molded through the influence of the U.S. J-ewish lobby) actually marginaled christian minorities in Iraq requiring them to flee? Some of these Christians were likely ancestors of genocide survivors who were forcibly marched out of Turkey into the Middle East.
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Another interesting question is why does the pro-Holocaust recognition lobby believe that the Holocaust should be recognized at the political level but the Armenian genocide should not?
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Didn't Hitler and the Nazi ruling party identify J-ews as a source of Germany's economic woes before it was decided to round em up like cattle and ship them to their death?
--------------------------------------------------------------------
And, finally, too bad we have such strong relations with Turkey that they are infringing into Northern Iraq and inciting hostilities with Iraqi kurds. The kurds at least are relatively capable
You know why weapons of mass destruction cannot be found in Iraq because the U.S. supplied a lot of them to Iraq during the Iraq-Iran war. Funny how know one talks about WMDs anymore. Doh!!!
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Now, for the evening's press ticker:
(Israeli newspaper publishes article detailing a bad summer for Holocaust commemoration; cites several examples - Russia, Berlin, Budapest, Poland, the Vatican - cemetery tombstone desecrations worldwide -in Israel, government set reparations at 83 shekels/mo. and the government identified ancestors of victims, refugees and those thought fought against Germany - Holocaust survivors for the political purpose of the ruling party and refused Darfur refugees contrary to the actions of J-ewish organizations internationally - esp. U.S. - who are at forefront of political and public relations for genocide survivors in Darfur; points out Israel's lack of sensitivity on Armenian genocde to preserve relations with Turkey and uniqueness of Holocaust and points to J-ewish author that wrote the 40 days of Musa Dagh of pre-Holocaust example of sensitivity to Armenian tragedy; all in all a very harsh critique of Israel re: what Dershowitz would call its "cognitive dissonance")
(Israeli newspaper publishes terribly flawed and misguided opinion of former adviser to Turkish embassy and Pro-Israeli activist re: What xxxs should do about Turkey and Armenia; cites to his own literary and internet achievements re: pro-Israeli activities to bolster his credibility; understands why Turkey and Turks deny the Armenian genocide; attributes the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Muslims and thousands of J-ews to Armenians; opines that Israel and U.S. J-ews must tread lightly concerning claims of genocide b/c Armenians are spreading rumors that J-ews organized the 1915 events - that Armenians massacred 2.5 Armenian muslims between 1914-1920 - Armenians massacring 3000 Azeri mountain j-ews in 1918 - and Armenians massacring hundreds of Azeri muslims in 1992; claims that both sides have tales and denials; concludes that U.S. and J-ews should encourage both sides to conduct examination objectively of those events as this is when nations mature)
Didn't seem like this was the path Germany was given to resolve the Holocaust. The rules always seem to change when its in the favor of protecting the Holocaust's uniqueness. Seems to be an important tenet of Zionism. We are entitled, they are not.
(Journal of Turkish Strategy Thinktank publishes opinion piece promoting new dialogue on genocide issue; claims tha ADL controversy highlights that Turkey needs to come clean b/c Turkish J-ews writing to U.S. J-ewish lobby regarding the resolution jeopardizing their safety is not glowing testimonial of Turkish democratic maturity; opines that Turkey and the public fail to recognize that the genocide battle has already been lost in the West partly b/c Turkey's unrelenting position has left them looking like an uncompromising,authoritarian state that has created a taboo; basically, blames Turkey for the loss on the issue in U.S. and concludes that Turkey should apologize indicating that territorial and financial compensation are out the question)
(Same journal publishes different opinion piece by same contributor above re: life after the Armenian resolution; opines that public opinion in D.C. is that it is a foregone conclusion that Congress will recognize the genocide and as such Turkish US relations shall require damage control and crisis management; resolution is wholly about US domestic policy and little to do with shaky Turkish American relations recenty related to Turkey's tepid support of Bush administration in Middle East; Turkey is to blame for the death of the genocide issue for stifling 'free' debate on the issue and lack of organized, educated Turkish-American lobby)
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