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Sorry. Nephew. Timothy Bishop.Originally posted by AlexandrosComment
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I entirely agree with you, Hyeguy! Neverthless, a promise is already a good start! Lots of candidates for the presidency of the Republic or any other politicians (Bush, for instance) don't promise to do anything about the armenian concern!Originally posted by hyeguy
Most of them rather flatter Turkey, are careful not to go about this problem! They simply avoid tackling the topic about the armenian genocide!Comment
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Their are no guarantees and we might be let down again but at least Obama-Biden is a much better alternative for the US and the world.Originally posted by SEVAN View PostGeneral Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”Comment
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Ummm.....are you forgetting that Bush had that "good start" promise to recognize the Armenian Genocide during his campaign? Obama is a well marketed plastic product. He says all the right things to all the right people to get all the votes. It's hard to fathom that anyone can still be so gullible as to believe a politician's campaign promises. Then again......we are Armenians. Apparently, the most gullible bunch ever.Originally posted by SEVAN View Post
I disagree. They are an equally crappy alternative for the US, just in their own way. Socialized health care is going to destroy this country, as is increasing taxes on the rich (which will drive more companies out of the country, and cost us jobs). I'm also not fond of this whole bleeding heart Liberal **** handouts business. There are way too many lazy, pathetic moochers leaching off this country's well-fare, unemployment, public aid, etc. systems, and we're ENCOURAGING it. NO one should get a free ride unless seriously disabled, or as a very short term fix in an emergency (I know...stuff happens). This includes all those Armenians in California following the lead of ghetto minorities and living off the government. I'm not a McCain fan, but Obama is going to **** this nation up just as bad in his own way. It's just mind-boggling that people don't see this, and instead, are mesmerized by all his empty, uninformative talk, or hypnotized by his little rock show.Originally posted by JosephComment
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If you want to talk about socialized health care you should come to Europe or why not Canada?But Obama`s health care plan is far from socialized health care.However what he would do is to make health care insurance more affordable for people.The problem is not that people doesn`t want to buy health care insurance, it`s that they can`t afford it.Originally posted by Anomaly View Post
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As for the taxes for companies, isn`t it strange that USA seems to encourage to export jobs to other countries by giving corporations tax breaks for shipping jobs overseas?
And don`t you think that rich people were doing fine when Clinton was President?Obama will have nearly the same taxes as Clinton did.And if I remember correctly when Clinton left office there was a $400 billion budget surplus.Are you trying to say that McCain`s tax plan is any different from Bush`s?Look at your country for the last 8 years.Your economy is really in bad shape and to be honest it could only get worse with McCain.
If interested, read more about Obama`s taxes here:
As for welfare, Obama is acually in favour of Clinton`s welfare reform in the 90`s which was highly criticized because it would make it much more difficult for people to get welfare.
USA`s economy is bleeding.Here`s just another sign:
Bush Asks Congress For $700B To Fix Bad Debt
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Well first of all, Clinton wasn't exactly the sole reason we were in a budget surplus during/directly after his administration. NO president can single handedly build up the economic structure of an entire country that well, that quickly. Clinton just happened to be in the right place, at the right time. We were at our economic peak in the '90s. This caused the majority of Americans to spend, spend, spend (unfortunately, the majority of Americans don't know the meaning of the word "saving"). And of course, as is the natural order of things, our economy took it's cyclical downward turn. Those Americans who thought the money would never end, or believed it was OK to keep charging things they couldn't afford to their credit cards, or bought houses they KNEW they couldn't afford, and got really stupid loans for them (i.e. interest only, non-fixed rate, etc), but thought they were going to turn around and sell for a profit before they were faced with the higher mortgages, found their idiotic financial decisions coming back to bite them in the ass. THESE are the people complaining. THESE are the people blaming the government, and demanding they bail them out.
Let's face it. The American PEOPLE are the biggest reason we're in this situation. Yes, Bush is an abomination to American presidential history. Yes, I've seen chimpanzees that were more capable of running a country, and heard dolphins with a better grasp of the English language. I can't wait till he's out of office. However, I'm also tired of the whole "blame everything that's wrong with this country on Bush" crap. Let's get real. It's time for people to start taking responsibility for their own actions. I know it's not the American way, as there's always an excuse or scapegoat about why "it's not my fault!" But our problems are NOT going to be fixed by waiting for the government to do something about it. Relying on, and trusting the government is a large part of how we got into this mess in the 1st place.
If the US economy is bleeding, it is largely due to our own doing. We praise unions, who are destroying this country by asking for obscene pay for remedial jobs (i.e. GM factory employees START at $28/hr!). Then we blame the economy when these companies fold when in reality, it's mostly due to the fact that they can no longer afford to pay such wages, and still remain profitable. We feel obligated to "help the less fortunate". We tend to paint a falsified picture of the less fortunate as being decent, honest people who have "fallen on hard times", when in reality, the majority are lazy leeches who either refuse to work, learn the language, etc., and are looking to take advantage of our "good will" and kindness, and we're all falling for it like gullible idiots.
And if our health insurance is too expensive, that is AGAIN our own doing. It is because for a couple decades now, people have been running to the doctor for every little thing since it's "free" (covered under their insurance). Couple that with the fact that Americans are MORE than complacent with their health epidemics, which are due to their lack of giving a xxxx about their health, and you have a recipe for disaster. Diabetes....heart disease.....anxiety disorders.....cancer....none of this seems to bother Americans, or deter them from continuing their xxxxty lifestyle of eating food fit for rats (which they consider delicious food that they could never give up), and being as sedentary as possible. THIS is what's killing our health care.
BTW, I'm well aware of Obama's...."plans". This is why I made the comment "It's just mind-boggling that people...are mesmerized by all his empty, uninformative talk". The links you provided illustrate that evasive, non-descriptive style quite well. His whole campaign is built on this "change" platform that he never defines in detail. But it's exactly what people want to hear. The country is xxxxed up. We WANT change! We NEED change! And Obama says he's going to GIVE us change, so let's all rally behind HIM! Never mind the details, or what "change" really means. We'll figure all that out later.
I'm certainly not for McCain. As much as I respect and admire his heroics for this nation, that does not necessarily mean he knows what's best for this country. In fact, he and Palin seem a weeee bit too war happy, who are apparently looking forward to this war continuing for "another 100 years", and seem too trigger happy on starting another one. My bashing of the Obama campaign is not meant to apply that I support McCain in any way, shape or form. I thought I had made that clear on my last post. I just don't understand the fascination and love fest with Obama's see-through theatricals.
If I had to vote for anyone, it would be Ron Paul. Anyone who flat out states things like being against the drug company lobbyists (who want vitamins and supplements to be banned), and being pro-natural health remedies is OK in my book. Unfortunately, he doesn't have a China man's chance in hell since stating things like that about entities that run this country is political suicide. This is why you hear nothing of him anymore, and why he was excluded from many polls.Comment
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Armenian National Committee of America
1711 N Street, NW, Washington, DC 20036
Tel. (202) 775-1918 * Fax. (202) 775-5648 * [email protected]
PRESS RELEASE
For Immediate Release ~ 2008-09-21
Contact: Elizabeth S. Chouldjian ~ Tel: (202) 775-1918
OBAMA MARKS ARMENIAN INDEPENDENCE DAY
Stresses his Respect for Enormous Armenian Contributions to American Life
WASHINGTON, DC – Presidential candidate Barack Obama today joined with Armenian Americans in celebrating Armenian Independence day in statement that noted Armenia’s first modern instance of independence in 1918 and congratulated all Armenians on Armenia’s rebirth in 1991 as an independent state after 70 years of Soviet rule, reported the Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA).
Senator Obama has, at several points during the campaign season, shared his views on Armenian American issues, including in a statement this April dedicated to the remembrance of the Armenian Genocide. In January of this year, in a statement on the eve of the California primary, he outlined his views on a broad array of Armenian American concerns. The Illinois legislator, who was then facing Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) for his party’s nomination, called for Congressional passage of the Armenian Genocide Resolution (H.Res.106 & S.Res.106), and pledged that, as president, he will recognize the Armenian Genocide. He also reaffirmed his support for a strong “U.S.-Armenian relationship that advances our common security and strengthens Armenian democracy,” and promised to “promote Armenian security by seeking an end to the Turkish and Azerbaijani blockades, and by working for a lasting and durable settlement of the Nagorno Karabagh conflict that is agreeable to all parties, and based upon America’s founding commitment to the principles of democracy and self determination.”
The full text of his January statement is posted on the Senator’s campaign website:
In today’s statement, which again cites the Armenian Genocide, Senator Obama noted that “after centuries of living in the Persian, Russian, and Turkish empires, Armenians first achieved their modern independence in 1918 and regained it after 70 years of Soviet rule in 1991. Their struggle continues, but in the years of renewed independence they have been able to guide their own destiny through years of war and economic dislocation.”
Senator Obama went on to mention the President of Turkey’s recent decision to accept the President of Armenia’s invitation to a World Cup qualifying match in Yerevan. The ANCA has outlined its views on this development in letters sent to the U.S. Congress.
Click here to read the text of these letters.
The full text of Senator Obama’s statement is provided below.
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Statement by Senator Barack Obama on Armenian Independence Day
Sunday, September 21, 2008
On this day, September 21, Armenians and friends of Armenia everywhere celebrate the independence of the Republic of Armenia, and I extend my warmest and best wishes on this happy occasion. Throughout their long history, a spirit of independence, self-reliance, and survival defines the Armenian people. After centuries of living in the Persian, Russian, and Turkish empires, Armenians first achieved their modern independence in 1918 and regained it after 70 years of Soviet rule in 1991. Their struggle continues, but in the years of renewed independence they have been able to guide their own destiny through years of war and economic dislocation. Even in the face of genocide, the pain of the past has not defeated the Armenians, either in Armenia or the far-flung diaspora.
America has benefited tremendously from the vigor and talents of the Armenian people. Armenian-Americans have made enormous contributions to American life – to our arts and academia, to business, science, and politics – while still maintaining strong ties to their ancestral home.
Recent events in the Caucasus region remind us of both the importance of rededicating ourselves to peace, and the possibility of progress even where there is a long history of alienation. The conflict in Georgia shows the danger that lurks when rising tensions are ignored and the United States pursues a diplomatic strategy of neglect. But in recent days we have also seen the hopeful step – taken by the Presidents of Turkey and Armenia -- to restart dialogue that could, in time, bring a welcome normalization of relations and offer Armenia more diversified opportunities for trade, transport, and energy supplies. American policy must build on this step, to ensure that Armenia enjoys a future not merely of independence but of partnership and cooperation with the U.S. and its allies.
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Alexandros, Obama’s comments sound very promising but unfortunately nothing will come out of it. The reality of the situation is that there is no way that he could continue this so called “War on Terror” in Afghanistan and Pakistan without the Turkish Airbase (Incirlik) and their truck drivers delivering supplies to the front lines. Furthermore Israel is using Turkey to push for “So called Peace” with Syria among many other closed door deals and we know how powerful Israeli influence is on American politics. And as if that is not enough Turkish lobby injects millions of dollars every year to make sure the Armenian Genocide does not get recognized. How is our lobby doing?? Remember what happened last time the Genocide issue came up? They pulled their ambassador from Washington, canceled their Generals visit to US and threatened America with the closure of their Airbase and any US flights over their Country, practically all hell broke loose. Talk about blackmail. There is no way Obama can deliver what he says, it would not be in the interest of the United States and Israel. WE ARE ON OUR OWN and nobody gives a damn about the Armenians.
Anomaly, I wouldn’t be so fast on putting the blame on all the American people. This is same old tricks that the Federal Reserve Bank has been using in the past by manipulating the interest rates and the amount of paper money in circulation. Do you really think they didn’t see this mortgage crisis coming?? Are we to believe that they are incompetent and stupid? Why do they bail out their banks and allow others to fall flat on their face. They are doing exactly what they have planned including the fall of the US dollar. BTW, guess who is going to get this $700 Billion temporary fix that they are going to bleed off of us tax payers while CEOs of bankrupt companies walk away with millions. I tell you who, the Banks that are under their control. This is just the tip of the iceberg and no president can fix it because the real power is held by our masters who run everybody and everything of importance including the President while keeping us fat dumb and entertained so we don’t think too much. Military Industrial complex has finally been completely fused into the domestic US economy and Democracy? No longer exists in any real sense. They took the most beautiful peace of literature ever written by man and pissed all over it in name of national security and nobody did anything about it. The Forefathers are rolling in their graves.Comment
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Originally posted by Edoman View Post
I'm really interested in this.....Do the turkish truckers drive through Iran with their US military supplies ? Drive through Georgia and Russia to the Central Asian republics to Afghanistan or to azerbad,jan and sail across that Russian lake, the Caspian ?
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