International Genocide Recognition

[Hovik]

Canadian lawmakers remember 'Armenian genocide'

Canadian lawmakers remember 'Armenian genocide'

Tue Apr 24, 4:24 PM ET



Canadian parliamentarians stood in silence for one minute Tuesday to recognize the "Armenian genocide" during World War I, a sensitive issue that hurt Canadian relations with Turkey last year.

A spokeswoman for Speaker of the House Peter Milliken told AFP the Conservative government's House leader and his counterparts from all three opposition parties agreed to the official commemoration.

Turkey said in April 2006 it was "appalled" by Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper's reference to the bloodbath as the first genocide of the 20th century, and temporarily recalled its ambassador to Ottawa in protest.

Ankara said then Harper's comments gave support to Armenia's "unfounded allegations of genocide" and that his position on the issue would "negatively affect ties between Turkey and Canada."

Armenians say up to 1.5 million of their kinsmen were slaughtered in an orchestrated genocide in the final years of the Ottoman Empire.

Turkey categorically rejects claims of genocide, arguing that 300,000 Armenians and at least as many Turks died in civil strife when Armenians began fighting for independence in eastern Anatolia and sided with Russian troops invading the crumbling Ottoman Empire.

[Gavur]

Israel doesn't recognize Armenian Genocide over good relations with Turkey

19.03.2007 17:41 GMT+04:00

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ “The fact that Israel hasn’t recognized the Armenian Genocide at the legislative level doesn’t imply denial of this historical event or indifference to it,” member of the Israeli Labor Party, chairperson of the Israeli Women’s Movement Nurit Levi told a news conference in Yerevan. She said good diplomatic relations with Turkey keeps Israel back from passing a law on the Armenian Genocide.

Israeli women may play a substantial role in the issue and we will do our best. We also have a big Diaspora and we understand how hard it is to live away from homeland. Our people survived the Holocaust and we do feel your tragedy,” she said, reports Novosti Armenia.

March 14 the Knesset has voted down the resolution recognizing the Armenian Genocide. 27 MPs were present in the sitting hall during the voting. Thus, only 12 out of 120 parliamentarians supported the resolution which was put on the agenda by the initiative of Merez party. The author of the resolution is Menahem Auron, the brother of well-known specialist on the Genocide and Holocaust Yair Auron.

[Joseph]

World Almanac

The World Almanac” included Turkey in list of countries responsible for genocide
20.03.2007 16:21 GMT+04:00
/PanARMENIAN.Net/ At the time when debates are continuing in U.S. Congress over Armenian Genocide resolution, ”>"The World Almanac and Book of Facts” included Turkey in the list of countries, which are responsible for genocide. Independent French journalist Jean Eckian told the PanARMENIAN.Net journalist the 2007 edition mentions that mass killings of Armenian at the beginning of 20th century in Ottoman Empire is a “genocide”, a crime that Turkey himself categorically denies. The annual almanac mentioned Turkey in the “Crime and Terrorist activities; Genocide” section. The almanac noted that the term “genocide” was first used by Dr. Raphael Lemkin in 1944 and gives the definition of the word. The almanac continued with the following statements, “The year: 1915, the event: Armenians being destroyed by Young Turks, the location: Turkey, the Ottoman Empire, estimated deaths: some 1 million.”

[Joseph]

my my - a fan!...lol...actually I was wondering if it weren't my stand against monotheism (though like with the Turks - the most extreme sensitivities do seem to be about the Armenian Genocide itself)...anyway I'm glad at least someone read my stuff...besides the moronic rah-rah lets attack and kill everyone we don't like nutjubs that is....BTW I know my s hit - when it comes to lots of things...

Hey 1.5, I'm a fan too! You certainly know your s hit.

[1.5 million]

BTW i liked your piece about all the reasons why we shouldn't be in Iraq
that guy from San Fran had no come for it you stumped him good hehe!
Come to think of it. your stance against the Iraq ocperation is probably the reason you been banned lol.
I would wear it as a badge of honor 1.5.

my my - a fan!...lol...actually I was wondering if it weren't my stand against monotheism (though like with the Turks - the most extreme sensitivities do seem to be about the Armenian Genocide itself)...anyway I'm glad at least someone read my stuff...besides the moronic rah-rah lets attack and kill everyone we don't like nutjubs that is....BTW I know my s hit - when it comes to lots of things...

[Gavur]

BTW i liked your piece about all the reasons why we shouldn't be in Iraq
that guy from San Fran had no come for it you stumped him good hehe!
Come to think of it. your stance against the Iraq ocperation is probably the reason you been banned lol.
I would wear it as a badge of honor 1.5.

[Gavur]

I would never support a goverment who is created by people that stabbed my nation in the back I'm sorry 1.5.At least Turks stabbed us in the front.we saw it comming but prevented buy our so-called scientific leaders from doing anything about it.
Everybody screws us and then says Oh I'm sorry did that hurt ? but we had to do that or so on.Seems like our existence is always against someone's personal or national interest.

[1.5 million]

It's their loss
I read some of the stuff there
They are mostly Zionixt or wannabe's
Heart is where your home,nation and your god is .

I agree - it is their loss (for a variety of reasons). Most, but not all, posters there are right wing Jews - mostly from the states I think - so there was not much I could ever say that would get through to them. There is/was a significant undercurrent of more enlightned folks however and I recieved a great deal of encouragment (through PMs) from various Jews there to keep up what I was doing (in regards to Armenian Genocide recognition and putting it to the Turks - ie countering their frequent denial). I recieved several PMs that various Turks were desperatly PMing Jews there trying to get support in denying the Armenian Genocide. I never saw much direct sucess (with Jews outright denying - some attempted to minimise or take various Turkish lines that it was killing on both sides etc - but most were either apathetic and didn;t get involved - or if they did were supportive) - and a number, at least privatly to me - acknowledged the Genocide and encouraged me (unfourtunatly the mods there were not supportive). Several indicated that they had at least told off the Turks via PM - and some opposed them publically as well. I consider myself a supporter of Israel BTW - even if I have issues with both Zionism (as I do with any nationalism of this nature) and of course I have issues (which I expressed) about specific Israeli stances and actions and that of certain leaders and politicians. I think it is a mistake, however to generalize regarding all Israelis and or all Jews as there is more diversity of views then others give credit too. The problem is that the extremists hold sway - just as with the Arabs/Muslims...and those who hold more comprimising views are often afraid to speak out.

[Gavur]

It's their loss
I read some of the stuff there
They are mostly Zionixt or wannabe's
Heart is where your home,nation and your god is .

[1.5 million]

Did I mention that I was recently (2 weeks ago?) banned from the Israeli forum strictly for protesting their ban on any discussions related to the Armenian Genocide. Actually all I said was:

"I have no interest or intent to debate the Armenian Genocide. It is fact and is essentially undebatable. Many issues are discussed in this forum that are perhaps tangental to the primary intent of discussion/debate concerning Israel and politics and such sorounding Israel and associated Arab issues. The Holocaust is an issue that directly touches all Jews and it will certainly be a subject of discusion in any Jewish forum. As a great many of the issues and much of the emotion surounding the holocaust paralles the experience of Armenians such as myself - when news/issues/discussions relating to the Holocaust (such as its denial) arise very often I, being Armenian and having a history of being persecuted and slaughtered as a people in very much the same way as Jews were in the Holocaust - with a great great many parallels - well these issues will stir in me similar emotion as Jews will often feel directly related to news and discussions concerning the Holocaust. I can directly relate to these things through my family experience and our experience as a people - so I will articulate my thoughts based on these relationships. Likewise their are political issues affecting Turkey, Armenia and Israel of relevance. You can't expect that I will not post on these issues where I find them to be very relevant to the discussions on this forum - certainly more so then a great variety of topics presented and discussed here. And it would not be possible for me to contribute here honestly and in being myself if I could not interject into these discussions what I know and feel in a meaningful way. I would just leave if restricted in this manner."

And this was my last post - they banned me...