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Originally posted by Eilian View PostYou misunderstand. Up until this year the British government was in charge of the Holocaust Day arrangements.The Holocaust Memorial Day Trust (consisting of Jews and others) have been sympathetic to our requests (initially made about two years ago) It was the Foreign Office of the UK government which put pressure on them not to recognise the Armenian Genocide. We got more than a few crumbs. The UK government will now be in a difficult position trying to persist in their denial while having sponsored an event which has recognised the Genocide.
BTW, in the IWM Holocaust exhibition, the AG is only mentioned in passing in a film that is shown in a separate room, it is otherwise ignored by the exhibition. In the IWM as a whole (based on my last visit there) the AG is also ignored, (in fact, it is more than ignored - it is whitewashed out, to the extent that in a map they have produced showing Europe in 1914 the Russian part of pre-WW1 Armenia is shown as being part of the Ottoman Empire.)
It was not the FO that wanted mention of the Armenian genocide removed from "Holocaust Memorial Day", it was Jewish organisations that wanted it excluded (the same people who wanted no mention of the Armenian Genocide in their Holocaust section).
Maybe you have got more than a few crumbs - maybe you got a bit of a crust - but who keeps most of the loaf?
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Yes agreed - kudos Eilian. Obviously there has been (and will continue to be) resistance regarding proper recognition from (certain) circles - government, business interests and otherwise. It is important that we don't just give up but maintina the pressure and the activism. Armenians will not be silenced. Turks [gov't] need to understand this (and I imagine by now they do...yet it deosen't seem to stop their efforts against) and other governments and special interests need to be made to understood that we aren't going to go away - and the truth cannot remain hidden/sidelined forever - not when we have dedicated individuals such as yourself working towards recognition and not when Armenians remain aware and commited to keeping the memory alive. And we will. Our parents, grandparents and great-granparents and out culture and people who all suffered, perished and who were violated so deserve no less.
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Originally posted by Eilian View PostYou misunderstand. Up until this year the British government was in charge of the Holocaust Day arrangements.The Holocaust Memorial Day Trust (consisting of Jews and others) have been sympathetic to our requests (initially made about two years ago) It was the Foreign Office of the UK government which put pressure on them not to recognise the Armenian Genocide. We got more than a few crumbs. The UK government will now be in a difficult position trying to persist in their denial while having sponsored an event which has recognised the Genocide.
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You misunderstand. Up until this year the British government was in charge of the Holocaust Day arrangements.The Holocaust Memorial Day Trust (consisting of Jews and others) have been sympathetic to our requests (initially made about two years ago) It was the Foreign Office of the UK government which put pressure on them not to recognise the Armenian Genocide. We got more than a few crumbs. The UK government will now be in a difficult position trying to persist in their denial while having sponsored an event which has recognised the Genocide.
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Originally posted by Helen View PostFrance launches 1915 Genocide stamp
It looks more like a privately-produced label, sold at an extortionately high price, (with an actual French stamp attached for postal validity).
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Originally posted by Eilian View PostThe Armenian Genocide was officially recognised at the Holocaust Day Event in Newcastle, UK at the weekend, following representations from Armenia Solidarity official John Torosyan,a leading figure in the the Welsh-Armenian Community.(supported by Nor Serount Cultural Association)
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Armenian Genocide recognised at main UK Holocaust Day event
Armenia Solidarity
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Armenian Genocide Recognised at the Official UK Holocaust Memorial Day Event
The Armenian Genocide was officially recognised at the Holocaust Day Event in Newcastle, UK at the weekend, following representations from Armenia Solidarity official John Torosyan,a leading figure in the the Welsh-Armenian Community.(supported by Nor Serount Cultural Association).
Our original recuest to the Holocaust Memorial Day Trust was made two years ago, and their response has been encouraging since then.
(The Welsh Armenian Community were allowed to stage an exhibition on the Genocide, with music and speeches in the foyer Millenium Centre, in the fringes of the main event when the 2006 HMD was held in Cardiff)
This time,though, recognition came from the main stage. It is signifigant because the organising body, the Holocaust Day Trust, is supported by the British government, with a minister usually participating at the event.
It will now be increasingly difficult for the UK government to keep to their position of denying the truth of the Armenian Genocide when they have sponsored an event which has recognised this truth! Speeches are prepared beforehand, and it was not a question of one speaker speaking her mind. This was with the full permission of the organisers.
Here is the text of what was said in the National Commemoration. It was by Mary Blewitt of SURF, the Rwandan survivors fund:
"The only reason I can think I was spared is to help those who, like me, must live with the legacy of genocide. I represent only the survivors of the genocide in Rwanda, but try when possible to speak as well for the survivors of the Holocaust and the genocides in Cambodia, Kosovo and Armenia. I try to ensure that their voices are heard - voices that tell the whole truth, that warn us of what humanity is capable of, that remind us of the suffering that must never again be permitted to happen to anyone, anywhere in the world."
Confirmation of this may be obtained from:
Chief Executive
Holocaust Memorial Day Trust
PO Box 49743
London
WC1H 9WU
Holocaust Memorial Day (HMD) on 27 January is the day to remember the millions of people murdered in the Holocaust, under Nazi Persecution and in the genocides in Cambodia, Rwanda, Bosnia, and Darfur. Holocaust Memorial Day Trust (HMDT) is the charity which promotes and supports HMD in the UK.
0845 838 188
Our hope is that this progress acheived in Genocide Recognition will persuade more UK Armenians to co-operate with us by contacting your M.P. to ask him/her to sign Early Day Motion 357, recognising the Genocide in the House Of Commons. Also, please ask him/her to sign motion 344 on the blockade of Armenia. Let us know at [email protected] if you are doing this, and send us the reply, even if it is negative.
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I'll make sure I send out a few hundred posts to random Turks next time I' in France (this summer)...viva La France!
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