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  • Gavur
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    Besides I believe it is the first time allowed for a vote .
    probably because since Turk forces are in Lebanon and Israel still has some unfinished business there so they are rattling their hardware .
    Why do we always have to be other peoples weapons?
    I'm sick and tired of it !!!!!!!!
    unworthy ones at that.

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  • Gavur
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    recognition by Israel is impossible as long as they stay a Zionist run and directed state and as long as they have unwashed hands of innocent blood.
    Infact I would personally refuse their recognition when the time comes.

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  • Gavur
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    Good thing they got the 1.5 M right
    Hmmm!
    80 or 180 feels like 2.000 years.

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  • 1.5 million
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    80th Aniversary? Are we sure that this is current news? I think it must be a typo or something...

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  • Gavur
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    Originally posted by Gavur View Post
    I hope Israel will be the last country (infact I'm sure of it!) that recognises our holocoust.

    Israel won't discuss Armenian massacre

    TEL AVIV, Israel, March 14 (UPI) -- Fears that discussing the Armenian genocide would disrupt Israel's relations with Turkey led lawmakers to drop the issue Wednesday.

    Voting 15 to 12, the Israeli legislature rejected a call by Knesset Member Haim Oron of the dovish opposition Meretz Party to discuss the massacre that next month will mark its 80th anniversary. Ottoman Turks have killed almost 1.5 million Armenians and deported more than 500,000 others then, Oron noted.

    "Especially as a people who knew the Shoah (Nazi Holocaust) ... fought its denial, we must show special sensitivity to another nation's disaster," he said.

    However Haaretz noted that Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni wanted the motion killed because they feared a crisis with Turkey.

    Oron said the Prime Minister's office had asked him to drop the subject and Livni, called him twice asking him to let go.

    Health Minister Yaakov Ben-Yizri, who spoke on Livni's behalf, said Israel understands the Armenians' sensitivity, each side tried to proves its case, and Israel hopes they could have an open dialogue to heal wounds.

    The Turks have been particularly sensitive to U.S. moves to recognize that massacre as "genocide."

    Turkish Daily News noted that in the past month Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul, Chief of the General Staff Gen. Yasar Buyukanit and a Turkish parliamentary delegation met U.S. Congressmen and administration officials to prevent a decision recognizing the Armenian massacre as genocide.

    They argued such a decision would be a psychological victory for the Armenians, and a cause for claiming compensation and territory.

    http://www.upi.com/InternationalInte...4-054719-8332r

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  • Joseph
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    TURKEY, AND THE U.S., MUST CONFRONT GENOCIDE'S REALITY

    Wall Street Journal
    March 12, 2007

    In his March 3 editorial-page commentary "Don't Go Cold on Turkey1,"
    former U.S. Ambassador to Turkey Mark Parris opposes U.S. recognition
    of the Armenian Genocide Resolution. His main contention is that
    this will result in a "train wreck" with an important, long-standing
    American ally.

    Amb. Parris and the other opponents of honestly recognizing this crime
    are once again crying wolf. "Train wrecks" were loudly but falsely
    predicted before President Reagan's 1981 public affirmation of the
    Armenian genocide, the 1984 designation by the House of April 24 as
    a day for its remembrance, as well as before the amendments passed
    by the House in 1996 and 2004 restricting U.S. aid to Turkey based
    on its denial of this crime against humanity.

    Despite threats of retribution, Turkey has taken only token steps
    against the European Parliament, Canada, France, Germany, Italy,
    Belgium, Argentina, Austria, the Netherlands, Poland, Russia, Sweden,
    Switzerland and other states and international bodies that have
    recognized the Armenian genocide.

    In fact, despite all its threats in 2001 against France's recognition
    of the Armenian genocide, trade between France and Turkey grew 22%
    the following year, and has grown by 131% over the past five years.

    Kenneth V. Hachikian Chairman Armenian National Committee of America
    Washington

    Mr. Parris advocates that the recognition of the genocide of the
    Armenians be shelved so that among other concerns candid voices
    by progressive Turks like Orhan Pamuk are not drowned out. Do we
    have to remind ourselves that there was no talk about the genocide
    resolution when charges were brought against the Nobel Laureate and
    many other scholars and journalists? Irrespective of what sublime bill
    the American legislature adopts, Turkey will continue its abhorrent
    attitude toward free thinkers unless the draconian rules in its
    criminal code are swept away.

    Dikran Abrahamian, M.D.

    Ontario, Canada

    Every time a congressional resolution on the Armenian genocide is
    introduced, the theme of "now is not the time" is rolled out. The
    previous moment came in 2000 when the House was poised to reaffirm
    the fact of the Armenian genocide.

    President Clinton successfully made the timing appeal to Speaker
    Hastert, who pulled the resolution from the schedule moments before
    it surely would have passed. A not so grateful Turkey subsequently
    denied a stunned United States any cooperation in dealing with Iraq.

    To date, more than 170 Democrat and Republican members of Congress
    have co-sponsored the current genocide resolution.

    Clearly there is growing bipartisan congressional support for action
    now to reaffirm Armenian history and confront genocide denial.

    The Republic of Turkey denies this crime and demands that friends
    around the world join in their revisionism. If friends do not, Turkey
    threatens them with reprisals.

    Simultaneously, Turkey criminalizes free speech and prosecutes its
    citizens for daring to speak the truth. Unless Turkey opts to deal
    forthrightly with its genocidal legacy, international recognition of
    the Armenian genocide will never be opportune.

    It is long past time for the U.S. to reaffirm the Armenian genocide
    despite Turkish threats and to support those in Turkey who serve
    democracy and reform by speaking freely. Now is precisely the time
    to act.

    Ross Vartian Executive Director U.S.-Armenia Public Affairs Committee
    Washington

    URL for this article:
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB117366314028033780.html

    Hyperlinks in this Article: (1)
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB117288912197925672.

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  • Gavur
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    Another European country is expected to recognize Armenian Genocide soon


    In the near future, another European country is expected to recognize the Armenian Genocide. Head of the Hay Dat European Office, Member of Hay Dat (The Armenian Cause) commission in Greece Gaspar Karapetyan told reporters, a REGNUM correspondent reports. Karapetyan is participating in an Hay Dat conference in Yerevan on March 12. He refused to say which country intends to recognize the genocide, saying that from the point of view of its territory the country is not that large, however, it takes a special position in Europe and plays substantial role in European processes.

    Commenting on the verdict imposed by Swiss court to leader of the Turkish Labor Party Dogu Perincek for denial of the Armenian Genocide, he noted that it once again confirmed impossibility of unpunished denial of a historical fact.

    Speaking on Hay Dat’s achievements in Europe, Karapetyan cited recognition of the Armenian Genocide by Greece, where on April 24, according to him, for several years running people have been revering memory of the Armenian Genocide victims.
    http://www.regnum.ru/english/794718.html

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  • Gavur
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    I hope Israel will be the last country (infact I'm sure of it!) that recognises our holocoust.

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  • Hovik
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    Israeli Knesset to discuss Genocide recognition

    Most likely Israeli Knesset to discuss Genocide recognition issue Wednesday

    /PanARMENIAN.Net/ On Wednesday “Meres” Israeli party is going to raise the issue to recognize the Armenian Genocide in the Knesset, “Hay Dat” Israeli office co-chairman Georgette Avagian stated to RFE RL. “Hopefully, if this time the resolution fails, next time the Knesset will certainly approve it,” she stated. The Israeli Media has not reacted to it, since 6 members of “Meres” party are having tete-a-tete meetings with MPs and do not appear with public statements. Arab party deputies of Knesset refused to participate in voting of recognizing the Armenian Genocide, stating, “We understand you, but Turkey is a Muslim country.” Israel-Turkey and Israel-Azerbaijan inter-parliamentarian groups of Knesset most likely will hamper the voting or will vote against the resolution. Also several Russian speaking parliamentarians have arrived in Israel from Baku, who often appear with anti-Armenian statements in Israeli Media. Last time attempts to put under vote the Armenian Genocide recognition issue in Knesset was made 5 years ago.

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  • 1.5 million
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    Originally posted by steph View Post
    Joseph, I think spoilt child rather than stubborn.
    Unfortunately, the child was indulged during the infancy stage and now, as an adolescent, really should be in therapy otherwise I can see a lifetime in institutions ahead.
    I'm afraid that the psychosis is much deeper then even this....at least however a few (lets think of them as antibodies) seem to have recognized this and are speaking up...let's hope that they, unlike Hrant Dink, can avoid being gunned down or otherwise silenced by agents of the dominant wolf mind....

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