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  • londontsi
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    Re: The List

    Originally posted by TomServo View Post
    I think we'll have to add British military historian John D. Grainger to the list. I read this article in Agos using Google Translate, and apparently his reasoning is that as long as the entire society is not eliminated then it cannot qualify as genocide.

    Gawd...


    Time somebody tapped on the shoulder of the J3s.

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  • TomServo
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    Re: The List

    I think we'll have to add British military historian John D. Grainger to the list. I read this article in Agos using Google Translate, and apparently his reasoning is that as long as the entire society is not eliminated then it cannot qualify as genocide.

    Gawd...

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  • Joseph
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    Re: The List

    Originally posted by Alexandros View Post

    Warren Christopher

    Warren Christopher has passed away. He was one of those who co-signed a letter with other former Secretaries of the State, urging the then Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi to prevent the Armenian Genocide resolution to reach the House floor.
    Thanks Alexandros

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  • Alexandros
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    Warren Christopher

    Warren Christopher has passed away. He was one of those who co-signed a letter with other former Secretaries of the State, urging the then Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi to prevent the Armenian Genocide resolution to reach the House floor.

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  • Karabed
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    Re: The List

    166. Donald Quataert passed away.

    Leading Ottoman historian passes away
    http://www.hurriyetdailynews(dot)com...way-2011-02-18

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  • Alexandros
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    Re: The List

    Richard Holbrooke(number 5) has passed away recently too. He was one of the most anti-Armenian and anti-Greek U.S. diplomats.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-...ke-passes-away

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  • Joseph
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    Re: The List

    Originally posted by Joseph View Post
    My idea is to compile a list of mostly US-based (non-Turkish nationals only; otherwise the list would be too large) pseudo-historians, lobbyists, writers, media outlets, politicians, think-tanks, lawfirms, etc. who:

    A. Work on behalf of (in some cases funded by) the expansionist, aggressive, and fascist Turkish national interest(s);
    B. Assist and work on behalf of forces for the denial of the Armenian, Assyrian, Pontic-Greek, and the ongoing Kurdish Genocide thus encouraging future injustice (enemies of justice), human rights violations, and murder;
    C. Whitewash, cover-up, and defend aggressive and fascist Turkish policies, corruption, human rights violations and the Ottoman/Turkish history of brutality and race murder;
    D. Work against Armenian Self-Determination and freedom in Artsakh {Nagorno-Karabakh} and a strong, self-sufficient Armenia;
    E. Work against Kurdish Self-Determination/Kurdish rights and freedom;
    F. Assist in the demonization of Christians and religious minorities in Turkey and encourage the continuation of dhimmitude of religious and ethnic minorities in Turkey;
    G. Willingly blackmail, lie to, and con the United States Armed Forces into entering global hostilities for the benefit of third-parties; namely Israel, oil companies and military industrial complex profits .

    The individuals listed below are enemies of both Armenia and Armenians worldwide not to mention Greek, Assyrians, Kurds, Russians, Abkazians, Ossetians, Yezidis, Persians and Serbs. They are enemies of truth and morality. These pseudo-intellectuals, oilmen, and warmongers are using their best efforts to endanger Armenia and Armenians; to hasten the demise of Armenia. They are enemies of humanity, common decency, equality and fairness. They are in league with Satan and the almighty dollar. They are the overlords of war and military aggression although many are indeed themselves "Chickenhawks".

    We will continue to compile the list over time. The moderators and I will edit the list and I ask that you send me a private message for any additions and/or corrections. I will add these as they are received but otherwise keep the thread locked. Thank you for your help.

    1. Justin McCarthy
    2. Stanford Shaw (deceased)
    3. Norman Stone
    4. Zeyno Baran
    5. Richard Holbrooke
    6. Ed Whitfield
    7. xxxx Gephardt
    8. Abraham Foxman (note: Foxman has since changed his denialist stance under pressure but is still against official recognition)
    9. Heath Lowry
    10. Brenda Shaffer
    11. Samuel Weems (deceased)
    12. Bruce Fein
    13. Norman Itzkowitz
    14. Vamik Volkan
    15. Daniel Fried
    16. Tom Lantos
    17. Douglas Frantz
    18. Guenter Lewy
    19. Bernard Lewis
    20. Erich Feigl
    21. Bill Schechter
    22. Salahi Sonyel
    23. Andrew Mango
    24. Edward Erickson
    25. Ergun Kirlikovali
    26. Edward Tashji (deceased)
    27. Thomas Goltz
    28. Robert Wexler
    29. Henry Kissinger
    30. Murad Gumen
    31. Bob Livingston
    32. Mark Parris
    33. Richard Secord
    34. Richard Armitage
    35. Brent Scowcroft
    36. Dennis Hastert
    37. Marc Grossman
    38. Douglas Feith
    39. Paul Wolfowitz
    40. Dan Burton
    41. Arthur Moss
    42. Florence Gilliam
    43. David Mercer
    44. Steve Solarz (deceased)
    45. Jason Epstein
    46. Lenny Ben-David
    47. Zbigniew Brzezinski
    48. Richard Secord
    49. Richard Perle
    50. Gerald Solomon
    51. Duane Gibson
    52. Richard Baker
    53. Roy Blunt
    54. Jim Kolbe
    55. George Nethercutt
    56. George Perlman
    57. Sandy Berger
    58. Elmer Pendleton
    59. Alan Colegrove
    60. Richard Lugar
    61. Frank Carlucci
    62. Christine Vick
    63. James Baker
    64. Sam Brownback
    65. Richard Armitage
    66. Cory Welt
    67. Paul Kern
    68. Joseph Ralston
    69. Frank Capuccio
    70. Jim Bunn
    71. Greg Laughlin
    72. Caspar Weinberger (deceased)
    73. Michael Ledeen
    74. Morris Amitay
    75. Elizabeth Avery
    76. Andy Button
    77. Richard K. Douglas
    78. Sherry Grandjean
    79. John R. Miller
    80. Selig A. Taubenblatt
    81. Ozer Baysal
    82. James Jones
    83. Robert Gates
    84. David Nanson
    85. Daniel Pipes
    86. Jack Kingston
    87. Alan Makovsky
    88. Donald Quatert (no longer a denialist)
    89. Soner Cagaptay
    90. Efraim Karsh
    91. Stobe Talbot
    92. Ahmet Ertegun (deceased)
    93. Jeane Kirkpatrick (deceased)
    94. Matthew Bryza
    95. The US State Department (in general)
    96. Michael Radu (deceased)
    97. Ariel Cohen
    98. Sabina Frazer
    99. Svante E. Cornell
    100. Michael Petzet
    101. Peter Semneby
    102. Ariel Cohen
    103. William Cohen
    104. Eric Edelman
    105. William Perry
    106. Alexander Haig (deceased)
    107. Jeremy Salt
    108. John Merrigan (DLA Piper)
    109. Michael Rubin
    110. Edward Erikson
    111. Melik Kaylan
    112. Frederick Kempe
    113. Hugh Pope
    114. Tulin Daloglu
    115. Masaki Kakiszaki
    116. Barbara Lerner
    117. Robert Hasan
    118. Joshua Walker
    119. Hamid Algar
    120. Morton Abramowitz
    121. Alexander Rondell
    122. Jonathan Katz
    123. Ken Ballen
    124. Jason Epstein
    125. Curt Weldon
    126. Edmund Ghareeb
    127. David Makovsky
    128. Michael Gunter
    129. Alcee Hastings
    130. Gilles Veinstein
    131. James Holmes
    132. Richard Cohen
    133. Mark Penn
    134. Terry Davis
    135. Rene Van Der Linden
    136. Ollie Rehn
    137. Marc Perron de Brichambaut
    138. Madeleine Albright
    139. Tony Blair
    140. Rino Harnish
    141. Erich Feigl - {Deceased}
    142. Goran Lenmarker
    143. Hicran Goltz
    144. G. Lincoln McCurdy
    145. David Saltzman
    146. Shlomo Bar-Meir
    147. Tom Mountain
    148. The Wall Street Journal {Editorial Board}
    149. Council for Foreign Relations
    150. Larry Franklin
    151. Michael Rubin
    152. xxxish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA)
    153. Project for the New American Century (PNAC)
    154. American Enterprise Institute (AEI)
    155. Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP)
    156. DLA Piper
    157. Tony Blair
    158. Frank Gaffney
    159. Meyrav Wurmer
    160. David C. Cuthell
    161. David Mercer
    162. Charles R. Johnston Jr.
    163. Robert Pearson
    164. Jenny B. White
    165. Walter Denny
    166. Donald Quataert
    167. Madeline Zilfi
    168. Howard Reed
    169. Justin Paul
    170. Allison Block
    171. xxxx Armey
    172. James Holmes
    173. Lydia Borland
    174. John C. K. Daly
    175. Vladimir Socor
    176. Roderic Davison
    177. Brian G. Williams
    178. Gilles Veinstein
    179. Avigdor Levy
    180. Pierre Oberling
    181. Camilla Hagelund
    182. Alexander Jackson
    183. International Crisis Group
    184. Borut Grgic
    185. George Friedman (Stratfor)
    Solarz is now dead. Good news

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  • Eddo211
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    Re: The List

    Originally posted by Armanen View Post
    thank you!
    x2....

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  • Armanen
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    Re: The List

    thank you!

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  • Joseph
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    Re: The List

    Originally posted by Joseph View Post
    My idea is to compile a list of mostly US-based (non-Turkish nationals only; otherwise the list would be too large) pseudo-historians, lobbyists, writers, media outlets, politicians, think-tanks, lawfirms, etc. who:

    A. Work on behalf of (in some cases funded by) the expansionist, aggressive, and fascist Turkish national interest(s);
    B. Assist and work on behalf of forces for the denial of the Armenian, Assyrian, Pontic-Greek, and the ongoing Kurdish Genocide thus encouraging future injustice (enemies of justice), human rights violations, and murder;
    C. Whitewash, cover-up, and defend aggressive and fascist Turkish policies, corruption, human rights violations and the Ottoman/Turkish history of brutality and race murder;
    D. Work against Armenian Self-Determination and freedom in Artsakh {Nagorno-Karabakh} and a strong, self-sufficient Armenia;
    E. Work against Kurdish Self-Determination/Kurdish rights and freedom;
    F. Assist in the demonization of Christians and religious minorities in Turkey and encourage the continuation of dhimmitude of religious and ethnic minorities in Turkey;
    G. Willingly blackmail, lie to, and con the United States Armed Forces into entering global hostilities for the benefit of third-parties; namely Israel, oil companies and military industrial complex profits .

    The individuals listed below are enemies of both Armenia and Armenians worldwide not to mention Greek, Assyrians, Kurds, Russians, Abkazians, Ossetians, Yezidis, Persians and Serbs. They are enemies of truth and morality. These pseudo-intellectuals, oilmen, and warmongers are using their best efforts to endanger Armenia and Armenians; to hasten the demise of Armenia. They are enemies of humanity, common decency, equality and fairness. They are in league with Satan and the almighty dollar. They are the overlords of war and military aggression although many are indeed themselves "Chickenhawks".

    We will continue to compile the list over time. The moderators and I will edit the list and I ask that you send me a private message for any additions and/or corrections. I will add these as they are received but otherwise keep the thread locked. Thank you for your help.

    1. Justin McCarthy
    2. Stanford Shaw (deceased)
    3. Norman Stone
    4. Zeyno Baran
    5. Richard Holbrooke
    6. Ed Whitfield
    7. Dxck Gephardt
    8. Abraham Foxman (note: Foxman has since changed his denialist stance under pressure but is still against official recognition)
    9. Heath Lowry
    10. Brenda Shaffer
    11. Samuel Weems (deceased)
    12. Bruce Fein
    13. Norman Itzkowitz
    14. Vamik Volkan
    15. Daniel Fried
    16. Tom Lantos
    17. Douglas Frantz
    18. Guenter Lewy
    19. Bernard Lewis
    20. Erich Feigl
    21. Bill Schechter
    22. Salahi Sonyel
    23. Andrew Mango
    24. Edward Erickson
    25. Ergun Kirlikovali
    26. Edward Tashji (deceased)
    27. Thomas Goltz
    28. Robert Wexler
    29. Henry Kissinger
    30. Murad Gumen
    31. Bob Livingston
    32. Mark Parris
    33. Richard Secord
    34. Richard Armitage
    35. Brent Scowcroft
    36. Dennis Hastert
    37. Marc Grossman
    38. Douglas Feith
    39. Paul Wolfowitz
    40. Dan Burton
    41. Arthur Moss
    42. Florence Gilliam
    43. David Mercer
    44. Steve Solarz
    45. Jason Epstein
    46. Lenny Ben-David
    47. Zbigniew Brzezinski
    48. Richard Secord
    49. Richard Perle
    50. Gerald Solomon
    51. Duane Gibson
    52. Richard Baker
    53. Roy Blunt
    54. Jim Kolbe
    55. George Nethercutt
    56. George Perlman
    57. Sandy Berger
    58. Elmer Pendleton
    59. Alan Colegrove
    60. Richard Lugar
    61. Frank Carlucci
    62. Christine Vick
    63. James Baker
    64. Sam Brownback
    65. Richard Armitage
    66. Cory Welt
    67. Paul Kern
    68. Joseph Ralston
    69. Frank Capuccio
    70. Jim Bunn
    71. Greg Laughlin
    72. Caspar Weinberger (deceased)
    73. Michael Ledeen
    74. Morris Amitay
    75. Elizabeth Avery
    76. Andy Button
    77. Richard K. Douglas
    78. Sherry Grandjean
    79. John R. Miller
    80. Selig A. Taubenblatt
    81. Ozer Baysal
    82. James Jones
    83. Robert Gates
    84. David Nanson
    85. Daniel Pipes
    86. Jack Kingston
    87. Alan Makovsky
    88. Donald Quatert (no longer a denialist)
    89. Soner Cagaptay
    90. Efraim Karsh
    91. Stobe Talbot
    92. Ahmet Ertegun (deceased)
    93. Jeane Kirkpatrick (deceased)
    94. Matthew Bryza
    95. The US State Department (in general)
    96. Michael Radu (deceased)
    97. Ariel Cohen
    98. Sabina Frazer
    99. Svante E. Cornell
    100. Michael Petzet
    101. Peter Semneby
    102. Ariel Cohen
    103. William Cohen
    104. Eric Edelman
    105. William Perry
    106. Alexander Haig (deceased)
    107. Jeremy Salt
    108. John Merrigan (DLA Piper)
    109. Michael Rubin
    110. Edward Erikson
    111. Melik Kaylan
    112. Frederick Kempe
    113. Hugh Pope
    114. Tulin Daloglu
    115. Masaki Kakiszaki
    116. Barbara Lerner
    117. Robert Hasan
    118. Joshua Walker
    119. Hamid Algar
    120. Morton Abramowitz
    121. Alexander Rondell
    122. Jonathan Katz
    123. Ken Ballen
    124. Jason Epstein
    125. Curt Weldon
    126. Edmund Ghareeb
    127. David Makovsky
    128. Michael Gunter
    129. Alcee Hastings
    130. Gilles Veinstein
    131. James Holmes
    132. Richard Cohen
    133. Mark Penn
    134. Terry Davis
    135. Rene Van Der Linden
    136. Ollie Rehn
    137. Marc Perron de Brichambaut
    138. Madeleine Albright
    139. Tony Blair
    140. Rino Harnish
    141. Erich Feigl - {Deceased}
    142. Goran Lenmarker
    143. Hicran Goltz
    144. G. Lincoln McCurdy
    145. David Saltzman
    146. Shlomo Bar-Meir
    147. Tom Mountain
    148. The Wall Street Journal {Editorial Board}
    149. Council for Foreign Relations
    150. Larry Franklin
    151. Michael Rubin
    152. xxxish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA)
    153. Project for the New American Century (PNAC)
    154. American Enterprise Institute (AEI)
    155. Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP)
    156. DLA Piper
    157. Tony Blair
    158. Frank Gaffney
    159. Meyrav Wurmer
    160. David C. Cuthell
    161. David Mercer
    162. Charles R. Johnston Jr.
    163. Robert Pearson
    164. Jenny B. White
    165. Walter Denny
    166. Donald Quataert
    167. Madeline Zilfi
    168. Howard Reed
    169. Justin Paul
    170. Allison Block
    171. Dxck Armey
    172. James Holmes
    173. Lydia Borland
    174. John C. K. Daly
    175. Vladimir Socor
    176. Roderic Davison
    177. Brian G. Williams
    178. Gilles Veinstein
    179. Avigdor Levy
    180. Pierre Oberling
    181. Camilla Hagelund
    182. Alexander Jackson
    183. International Crisis Group
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