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Please Sign This Petition: Özür diliyoruz

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  • #11
    Originally posted by Gavur View Post
    Seems like, one out of three Armenians from Gilikia I speak to remembers a non-Armenian that helped escape their father, or grandfather during AG,those heroes names must be collected and put on a monument in their memory,with these signatures.
    This petition is amazing, and Gavur, your idea is a very good idea. All we need is an opening like this one; a collective act of kindness and humanity from the Turkish public, and we should seize on it. We should extend our hands to these people who have risked retaliation and hardship and do something in return. Your idea of a monument to righteous Turks and Kurds who risked their lives to save Armenians is one way we can do that. It will let these people who are sticking their necks out for justice know that we are with them 100%. It will also let Turkish people know that we are not out to get them or humiliate them. We are simply out for justice for the memory of our murdered ancestors, which is something anyone would want.

    We are faced with an enormous, insidiuous and institutional monster that has xxxxxled on the human rights of Turkish people and decimated their progress since the inception of the Turkish Republic. In order to conquer this beast, we need to make an alliance with the Turkish people. We need to be together. It is difficult for them to conquer this monster from within, and it is difficult for us to conquer it from the outside. But with a united front made up of large numbers of Turks, Armenians and other justice seekers, we can together transform Turkey and make it a place that is good and friendly neighbor for Armenia.

    This, I believe, was Hrant's dream. He believed in the ultimate goodness of the Turkish people and the Armenian people, and he had faith that they would find a way to fix this thing together. This petition is a step towards the fix.

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    • #12
      some of the muslims hid armenians in their own homes "pianist style" and it wasn't a very rare occasion. I heard that from many people. unfortunately, talat pasha issued a new law: "if you help armenians you will be executed."

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      • #13
        Originally posted by mthT View Post
        some of the muslims hid armenians in their own homes "pianist style" and it wasn't a very rare occasion. I heard that from many people. unfortunately, talat pasha issued a new law: "if you help armenians you will be executed."
        That's why the story of Turks and other Muslims who saved Armenians and other Christians is such a compelling story and needs to be told. These were heroic and selfless acts and the world needs to know about them.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by phantom View Post
          That's why the story of Turks and other Muslims who saved Armenians and other Christians is such a compelling story and needs to be told. These were heroic and selfless acts and the world needs to know about them.
          Indeed phantom.You are right.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Gavur View Post
            Seems like, one out of three Armenians from Gilikia I speak to remembers a non-Armenian that helped escape their father, or grandfather during AG,those heroes names must be collected and put on a monument in their memory,with these signatures.
            Also in some villages of Mersin, in eastern Mediterennean part of Anatolia, like in everywhere, some Turks and Kurds helped.

            If you let, i want to start with one of oral tellings. In Mersin city, Tarsus town, in Sucular, Dedeler, Ziyaret and Ashab-ı Kehf villages, Panoglu Haci Ali Beg, hide more than 20 Armenian children and women in his stables for three weeks or more and then he brought them to the port in order to make them get on a ship for escape.

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            • #16
              How do you know about Haci Ali Beg, and how do we learn more about him? Someone should write a book about him in Turkish and translate it into Armenian and English.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by ardakilic View Post
                Also in some villages of Mersin, in eastern Mediterennean part of Anatolia, like in everywhere, some Turks and Kurds helped.

                If you let, i want to start with one of oral tellings. In Mersin city, Tarsus town, in Sucular, Dedeler, Ziyaret and Ashab-ı Kehf villages, Panoglu Haci Ali Beg, hide more than 20 Armenian children and women in his stables for three weeks or more and then he brought them to the port in order to make them get on a ship for escape.
                Certainly these heroic peoples names should be gathered and listed. Gavur's idea of a monument is perfect and also a replica in Yerevan.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by phantom View Post
                  How do you know about Haci Ali Beg, and how do we learn more about him? Someone should write a book about him in Turkish and have it translated into Armenian and English.
                  Panoglu Haci Ali Beg is a leading member of Panoglu (or Panizadehs) ancestry, Varsakogullari clan and settled to Mersin reigon. The clan was half-nomadic through Toros mountains and villages in the skirts. It is a long story of this clan. Let me break short.

                  As i told, this is an oral telling which i listened from his grandson, now living in Istanbul. His grandson tells, Haci Ali Beg, at his last days (died in 1978), always was repeating "Elhamdulillah o işe bulaşmadık" (Thanks to God, we werent contamined by that event".

                  Mersin was so cosmopolitan city before 1950s; Muslim and Alevi Turks, Christian and Muslim Arabs, Greeks, Jews and Armenians lived together. Those Armenians who Haci Ali Beg hide were from the centre of Mersin but escaped to Tarsus town.

                  Unfortunately there is no book about him. He was a simple and modest man.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by mthT View Post
                    some of the muslims hid armenians in their own homes "pianist style" and it wasn't a very rare occasion. I heard that from many people. unfortunately, talat pasha issued a new law: "if you help armenians you will be executed."
                    Many Armenians escaped because their Muslim neighbors hid them and/or helped them flee. Certain mixed vilages, hamlets, towns ignored the order to harm Christians, especially areas with a large Alevi population such as Konya.
                    General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Joseph View Post
                      Many Armenians escaped because their Muslim neighbors hid them and/or helped them flee. Certain mixed vilages, hamlets, towns ignored the order to harm Christians, especially areas with a large Alevi population such as Konya.
                      And as Ardakilic mentioned, Mersin as well.
                      General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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