Vive La France !!!!!

[Tigranakert]

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Notice how this has been one of the main headlines of RussiaToday, all today from the morning until now. Love how RT presents it as "ARMENIAN VICTORY". Thank you Margarita Simonyan! Check the video.

http://rt.com/news/french-parliament-armenian-genocide-519/

Unlike all the other major news sources, which write "alleged" genocide, or "genocide", and next to that only let Turks do the talking, RussiaToday devotes almost their entire time interviewing an Armenian.

[Davo88]

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If you check turquie-news.com now, there is a response to the hack written by the website's team. You can clearly see that they have an anti-ARF bias. The truth is that all Armenians, regardless of political affiliation, support Armenian genocide recognition.

I am really glad it passed. Hopefully though, the law doesn't get annulled in the French Constitutional court. I am sure that the Turks and their allies in France are now hard at work to stop this law before it gets officially signed by Sarkozy.

What do you say of Amnesty International's position on the issue? http://www.amnesty.org.uk/news_details.asp?NewsID=19913

Notice how this has been one of the main headlines of RussiaToday, all today from the morning until now. Love how RT presents it as "ARMENIAN VICTORY". Thank you Margarita Simonyan! Check the video.

http://rt.com/news/french-parliament...-genocide-519/

Unlike all the other major news sources, which write "alleged" genocide, or "genocide", and next to that only let Turks do the talking, RussiaToday devotes almost their entire time interviewing an Armenian.

Slowly other major sources such as AFP will change their vocabulary when talking about the Armenian genocide and be like RussiaToday.

[Artashes]

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Ounce again amnesty international as well as others fails to comprehend the difference between freedom and licence I again repeat the definition of (freedom) and (licence) : freedom/the power to act ,speak, or think without externally imposed restraints /licence:excessive freedom;lack of due restraint ,freedom to deviate deliberately from the normally applicable rules or practices.

[Mos]

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Notice how this has been one of the main headlines of RussiaToday, all today from the morning until now. Love how RT presents it as "ARMENIAN VICTORY". Thank you Margarita Simonyan! Check the video.

http://rt.com/news/french-parliament-armenian-genocide-519/

Unlike all the other major news sources, which write "alleged" genocide, or "genocide", and next to that only let Turks do the talking, RussiaToday devotes almost their entire time interviewing an Armenian.

I hate it when they put Genocide in quotes. Bastards.

[Eddo211]

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Toorkeri lezoon kethervela, vochich chen asoom sra massin......too funny, no sign of Turkish rage squad on other forums about passage of this bill by senate lol.
bochnere kethervela eshi gelooghnere. Shat luvene, bravo francia.

Lets hope Sarkozy doesn't screw this up, and I will take back everything I have said about him.

[Davo88]

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For those who know French, you may watch the French Senate's discussion about the genocide law here:

[Davo88]

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A relatively well written article that has some interesting facts:

Turkey Calls France Racist, Holds Fire on Genocide Measure

Emre Peker, ©2012 Bloomberg News

Wednesday, January 25, 2012

Jan. 24 (Bloomberg) -- Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan accused France's parliament of racism for a measure criminalizing the denial of genocide against Armenians in Anatolia, while holding back on announcing additional sanctions.

The law, which passed in the French Senate last night and would make the offense punishable by as much as a year in prison and a 45,000-euro ($58,518) fine, isn't legal and Turkey will ignore it, Erdogan told lawmakers of his governing party at the parliament in Ankara. About 20 other nations including Russia and Canada recognize the events in Anatolia as genocide.

Erdogan called the French law an "error" that he hoped wouldn't be implemented, even as he continued to threaten sanctions against France, Turkey's seventh-biggest trading partner with $14.8 billion of goods exchanged last year. Nicolas Sarkozy is using the matter to shore up public support before elections in May, Erdogan said, appealing to the French president's past as he promised Turkey will remain calm.

"The measure that was approved by the National Assembly of France and then the Senate is downright discrimination, racism and a very clear massacre of freedom of thought," Erdogan said in televised comments today. "This is an effort to convert votes out of hatred of Turkey."

Turkey 'Patient'

Erdogan's tone contrasts with his response in December, when Turkey froze political and military relations with France after the lower chamber backed the measure. The premier had told Sarkozy then to ask his grandfather about a French genocide against Algerians. Today, Erdogan said Turkey is "patient" and will see how the process plays out, while reminding Sarkozy of his ties to Turkey because his grandfather was an Ottoman xxx whose ancestors were banished from Spain during the Inquisition.

France follows countries such as Switzerland, which has arrested and fined at least three Turks who deny genocide against Armenians. Turkish trade with Switzerland almost doubled to $6.1 billion last year from 2003, when the country passed its genocide legislation, according to Turkey's statistics agency.

"This day will be written in gold, not only in the history of friendship between the Armenian and French peoples, but also in the annals of the history of the protection of human rights worldwide," Armenian Foreign Minister Eduard Nalbandian said in a statement.

Armenians say 1.5 million ethnic Armenians were killed from 1915 to 1923 in a deliberate campaign of genocide. Turkey maintains the deaths occurred as part of clashes in which tens of thousands of Turks and Armenians died after Armenian groups sided with a Russian army invading the Ottoman Empire, Turkey's predecessor.

Seeking Signatures

Turkey is working with French lawmakers who opposed the measure to get 60 signatures and appeal the legislation to the constitutional court, Erdogan said. The French Senate's law committee rejected the bill, saying it was unconstitutional, and recommended that the body drop it from its agenda. Senators passed the legislation by a vote of 127-86.

That vote was "inopportune," French Foreign Minister Alain Juppe said on Canal-Plus television. "Turkey and France need each other to work together on many issues. I hope reason wins out over passion," he said.

Thousands of Turks in Paris protested the measure outside the Senate, separated by a 200-meter (650-foot) police corridor from Armenians who backed the law, Turkey's state-run Anatolia news agency reported yesterday. Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu had lobbied against the bill by summoning executives of Credit Agricole SA and Groupama SA in December.

'Wrong Decision'

Turkey temporarily withdrew its ambassador to Paris, Tahsin Burcuoglu, after the lower house approved the measure. He may be recalled to Ankara for discussions following last night's vote, according to Anatolia. "This is a very wrong decision," he said.

Turkey, a North Atlantic Treaty Organization ally of France, has threatened economic as well as political reprisals over the law. French carmakers including Renault SA control a fifth of Turkey's market and French banks such as BNP Paribas SA have assets in the country exceeding $20 billion. French direct investment in Turkey between 2002 and 2010 was $4.8 billion, the Turkish embassy in Paris has said.



--With assistance from Helene Fouquet and Gregory Viscusi in Paris. Editors: Jennifer M. Freedman, Digby Lidstone

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2012/01/25/bloomberg_articlesLY97ZW07SXKX01-LYB7D.DTL#ixzz1kTtRBHcH

[bell-the-cat]

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Ounce again amnesty international as well as others fails to comprehend the difference between freedom and licence I again repeat the definition of (freedom) and (licence) : freedom/the power to act ,speak, or think without externally imposed restraints /licence:excessive freedom;lack of due restraint ,freedom to deviate deliberately from the normally applicable rules or practices.

Once again Armenians everywhere show their contempt for the fundamental rights and freedoms of others by assuming that they have some god-given right to usurp those rights and freedoms if they think it benefits their narrow, short-term, self-interests. (And the law isn't even going to contribute to those narrow, short-term self interests.)

[Davo88]

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Armenians name baby 'Sarkozy' after France vote

YEREVAN — A couple in Armenia named their newborn baby after French President Nicolas Sarkozy on Wednesday in thanks for the French Senate vote to outlaw denial of the genocide of Armenians during World War I.

The family said the child was given the first name Sarkozy out of gratitude to the French leader, who many Armenians have praised for backing the bill.

"We were going to name the baby after his grandfather, but after the French Senate passed the bill despite threats from the Turks, we decided to name him in honour of the president of France, this brave man," the boy's grandmother Alvard Manukian told AFP.

"Let our baby, Sarkozy Avetisian, become a man as brave and just as his namesake," his grandmother said.

Armenia has hailed Sarkozy for his commitment to the bill which has infuriated France's NATO ally Turkey, with President Serzh Sarkisian saying on Tuesday that France had "reaffirmed its greatness and power, its devotion to universal human values".

Armenia and its diaspora in countries around the world have long campaigned for international recognition of the killings by Ottoman Turks during World War I as genocide, despite strong denials from Turkey.

The issue has poisoned relations for decades between the two neighbours whose mutual border remains closed.

Armenia says that planned massacres and deportations left more than 1.5 million of its people dead, but Turkey puts the number at up to 500,000, describing the bloodshed as civil strife.

Copyright © 2012 AFP. All rights reserved

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gd-V3Vqv4C6SB_dfiwePMbIp7MCQ?docId=CNG.3248d6bb9b1f306d64ddfceb443a1871.751

[retro]

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Lets hope Sarkozy doesn't screw this up, and I will take back everything I have said about him.

Whilst the xxxs are using this AG issue to browbeat the Turks. Europe is anti-Turk anyway and the Anglo-Americans are increasingly marginal in Europe. Which is why the likes of Croatia are now joining the European Union.

Take a look at this low pass by a French Mirage.