Vive La France !!!!!

[bell-the-cat]

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Arshak Mkrtchyan (aka Arshakuni) – is a relatively new but very interesting, sometimes controversial blogger from the UK, who blogs only when he really has a point to make.

Is that your claim or Arshak Mkrtchyan's claim? The one thing bloggers seldom lack is an overly-inflated ego.

[Artashes]

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In resonse to the postings of :Prof TA and Arshak Mkrtchyan. I thank both Mher and Federate for gifting myself and this forum with the considerations of these two first rate intellects. You have done this group and this conversation an emmens help to clarify and focus onto that which is of merit and substance and separate that from chaf. To have the privilege tof listen to these two minds of the first order is to be given the honor of being enlightened . Sincerely /Artashes

[Artashes]

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As to bells comment: Having been exposed to these to world class thinkers and your question was what? Wow! Your sure know how to focus on the (meat) of the issue.

[KarotheGreat]

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As to bells comment: Having been exposed to these to world class thinkers and your question was what? Wow! Your sure know how to focus on the (meat) of the issue.

Did you just call them world class thinkers? Jefferson was a world class thinker, Pain was a world class thinker, Voltaire was a world class thinker, Benjamin Franklin was a world class thinker, Nezedje was a world class thinker! In our days people like Hawkins are world class thinkers! I think it is an insult to all the world class thinkers to even think any one of those people as a world class thinker!

[Artashes]

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In response to : ( I think Thomas Paine etc would be insulted) I seriously dought any of that group you mentioned would be insulted at all . I think the two men could have easily sat at the sam table with any of the people you mentioned .I think they would have been welcomed their . /Artashes

[KarotheGreat]

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In response to : ( I think Thomas Paine etc would be insulted) I seriously dought any of that group you mentioned would be insulted at all . I think the two men could have easily sat at the sam table with any of the people you mentioned .I think they would have been welcomed their . /Artashes

Don't get me wrong, I think he is a great man and I also believe that he has done some great things for Armenians and their cause. However he is no great thinker. In Turkey he is being prosecuted for his views but supports the same thing in France. Have you read one of his books? I own and have read some of his books, and trust me they are really boring to read. It doesn't mean that if someone fights for your rights you give them praise that they don't deserve. Can you tell me what the blogger has done that is so revolutionary or special?

[hrai]

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In Turkey he is being prosecuted for his views but supports the same thing in France.

His prosecution in turcey and his support for the French Bill aren't mutually exclusive though are they?

[hrai]

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Is that a question again or are you insulting me now?

No insult that I see.

[Artashes]

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Back on substance--- Let's say those French bill actually gets passed . I don't think it's time for celebration. That would be like dropping the ball. Instead ,we have to keep the pressure up and intensify it when possible. One thought is to contact all the countries that have acknowledged the(AG) to send representatives and have a (highly publicized ) pointedly solem march through the city . The forces of the murdering liars are counting on a almost immediate forgetfulness by the general public of the world. Any other ideas out their ? /Artashes

[hrai]

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I can see how it might be confusing for those who can't seem to wrap their heads around the fact that this is a private forum and that removing posts is not the equivalent of your government criminalizing expressing a particular belief. I know forums and governments are so very similar that it makes this distinction an incredibly tricky one to grasp.

Thanks for your consideration Siggie. Obviously I needed some time to reply as there was quite a lot of tricky headwrapping to be done. I've just about got there with the distinctions between forums and governments, just about.
We'll probably disagree for infinity on this (and other issues), my bottom line is that France is a sovereign nation and passes law in as democratic a way as any other sovereign nation. Individuals who wish to live outside of those laws should remove themselves elsewhere.