The 100th Anniversary - and Events to Mark it

[Artashes]

Re: The 100th Anniversary - and Events to Mark it

Luxembourg Recognizes Armenian Genocide

26th country to do so

http://armenpress.am/eng/news/804540/

https://twitter.com/eafjd/status/595...&utm_medium=fb

Erdogay condemns the pope . Erdotwit condemns western Europe . Erdoboy condemns Russia . Erdoknothead condemns USA etc ...
Because of all our efforts to bring the truth into the light of day , erdojerk losses it and expedites our efforts.
Keep running your mouth erdohominoid .

[Artashes]

Re: The 100th Anniversary - and Events to Mark it

Luxembourg Recognizes Armenian Genocide

26th country to do so

http://armenpress.am/eng/news/804540/

https://twitter.com/eafjd/status/595...&utm_medium=fb

Erdogay condemns the pope . Erdotwit condemns western Europe . Erdoboy condemns Russia . Erdoknothead condemns USA etc ...
Because of all our efforts to bring the truth into the light of day , erdojerk losses it and expedites our efforts.
Keep running your mouth erdohominoid .

------- who is erdojerk appealing to ? ------
Not the minuscule number of turcs who recognize that genocide was committed .
But rather the vast majority who will (and do ) condone the rapes and murders and abductions and tortures .
Erdojerk epitomizes the turc in general . Erdogay represents the majority of the rapist murderers known as turcs .

[Haykakan]

Re: The 100th Anniversary - and Events to Mark it

HOW SHOULD KURDS ADDRESS ARMENIAN GENOCIDE?

Rudaw, Kurdish paper
May 6 2015

By KANI XULAM yesterday at 03:35

Most people of conscience feel a frightful crime of unspeakable
brutality was executed against more than a million Armenians when
they were horrifically slaughtered by the old Turkish Ottoman Empire
beginning especially in 1915.

We weren't around then, of course, but some of our ancestors--it pains
me to admit--unfortunately embraced the Turkish butchering orders,
and helped themselves to the bountiful spoils.

In fairness, some Kurds (I wish there were many) refused to attack
the helpless Armenians--and other brave souls rescued them (alas,
not that many) from certain death.

But because many more did embrace the cold-blooded criminality, it is
encouraging to see some Kurdish leaders acknowledge our tarnished role.

"Without hesitation, I recognize the Armenian genocide," declared
Selahattin Demirtas, co-chair of the Peoples' Democratic Party,
on April 24, the hundredth anniversary of that hideous holocaust.

But is that enough?

Do the Armenians even hear us?

Many probably don't.

They want the Turks--the real criminal culprits in the matter--to do
the apologizing, not the Kurds, who were merely secondary players.

Like the xxxs of World War II, Armenians feel wronged, and want
the Turks to step forward and apologize to Armenians the way German
Chancellor Willie Brandt did to xxxs and Poles for Nazi atrocities.

In 1970, the German leader visited the Monument to the Ghetto Heroes in
Warsaw and solemnly sank to his knees in a moving gesture of atonement.

The inspiring photo showed the world how to apologize for genocide.

It vividly memorialized: "One picture is worth a thousand words."

Asked why he did so, Chancellor Brandt answered:

"Under the weight of recent history, I did what people do when words
fail them. In this way I commemorated millions of murdered people."

Armenians are still waiting for a similar act from the stubborn Turks.

But, sadly, there is no sign of a Turkish version of Willie Brandt
in Ankara.

Perhaps Turks don't do remorse.

Maybe they need help in how to show humility, not just in Eastern
Europe, where they were defeated by the Russians, but also in Eastern
Anatolia, where they not only exterminated unarmed Armenian men and
then gleefully helped themselves to their women, but also told us it
was our "religious duty--jihad" to do the same.

Germans, executors of the xxxish Holocaust, have the experience to help
them, but--if they decline-- I have a man warming up in the bullpen:
Ben Affleck.

The Hollywood superstar and Turks are not paired often, but maybe
they should be, given their recent coverage.

Mr. Affleck found himself in a pickle, just as Turks have found
themselves for the past 100 years.

He had agreed to be interviewed by the producer of "Finding Your
Roots" with Henry Louis Gates Jr., only to discover that he had a
slave-owning ancestor on his mother side!

Mr. Affleck urged the producer to ignore that part of his past,
which he did.

Like the Turks, Mr. Affleck tried to rearrange history, but the past
"is never dead," as William Faulkner shrewdly observed. "It's not
even past."

When details leaked out about his ancestor's slave-owning history--and
the attempt to hide it--Mr. Affleck promptly apologized for the lapse
in judgment.

Now that he is fully liberated, he should help the 50 million or so
folks who call themselves Turks to also sip from the cup of truth.

The actor could perhaps make a movie about the founder of Turkey,
Mustafa Kemal Ataturk.

The Turkish leader did not bloody his own hands in the genocide of
Armenians, but he didn't mind benefitting from it.

And when he built a presidential palace in Ankara, he didn't hesitate
to erect it on the confiscated estate of an Armenian family.

But what he did to confiscated Armenian lands in places like Elazig,
Diyarbakir, Mardin, Mus, Bitlis and Van, just to name a few, has a
Kurdish angle to it.

He promised to give Kurds living there the Armenian lands--provided
they helped him defeat the Greeks in his war of independence for the
"Muslims," which included the Kurds.

Some Kurds sided with him, and he won his war.

But he spat on his promise--and his faithful Kurdish allies.

The Armenians were exterminated, for "inwardly" siding with the
Christian Russians.

The Kurds, though Muslims, were now declared "savages" who must be
"civilized"--meaning Turkified--whether they liked it or not.

Nine decades later, the Turkish-Kurdish hostility is as fresh as when
it was reignited by the founder of "Modern" Turkey.

A documentary covering these issues with Mr. Affleck's voiceover
might, just might, instill some sanity into the debate of
who-did-what-to-whom.

The Kurds would also benefit from it.

For example, in today's Turkey, 2,900 Armenian settlements have
Turkish names, but are inhabited primarily by Kurds.

If Turks decide to adopt decolonization as a policy, the Kurds,
if honest with themselves, should restore the Armenian names to
these settlements.

A free Kurdistan should also pay reparations to Armenia, as Germans
are paying to the state of Israel.

That would be an astonishing, highly commendable first!

Doing something so down-to-earth humane, something so unexpectedly
civilized, would be so totally opposite to the uncivilized brutality
heretofore shown by the Islamic State that it would turn the world
on its ear, and proclaim: "Look what these Kurds are doing!"

Here would be a Muslim Kurdistan showing lofty charity to a Christian
nation!

If Kurds did such an amazing thing, Armenians would surely accept our
contrition as genuine--and the world would sit up and take notice too!

- Kani Xulam is a political activist based in Washington D.C. He runs
the American Kurdish Information Network (AKIN)

- The views expressed in this article are those of the author and do
not necessarily reflect the position of Rudaw.

http://rudaw.net/english/opinion/05052015

[londontsi]

Re: The 100th Anniversary - and Events to Mark it

- The views expressed in this article are those of the author and do
not necessarily reflect the position of Rudaw.

http://rudaw.net/english/opinion/05052015

That says the lot.

Are they afraid to associate themselves with what was said.

or the article was just a filler for the paper.

.

[Artashes]

Re: The 100th Anniversary - and Events to Mark it

HOW SHOULD KURDS ADDRESS ARMENIAN GENOCIDE?

Rudaw, Kurdish paper
May 6 2015

By KANI XULAM yesterday at 03:35

Most people of conscience feel a frightful crime of unspeakable
brutality was executed against more than a million Armenians when
they were horrifically slaughtered by the old Turkish Ottoman Empire
beginning especially in 1915.

We weren't around then, of course, but some of our ancestors--it pains
me to admit--unfortunately embraced the Turkish butchering orders,
and helped themselves to the bountiful spoils.

In fairness, some Kurds (I wish there were many) refused to attack
the helpless Armenians--and other brave souls rescued them (alas,
not that many) from certain death.

But because many more did embrace the cold-blooded criminality, it is
encouraging to see some Kurdish leaders acknowledge our tarnished role.

"Without hesitation, I recognize the Armenian genocide," declared
Selahattin Demirtas, co-chair of the Peoples' Democratic Party,
on April 24, the hundredth anniversary of that hideous holocaust.

But is that enough?

Do the Armenians even hear us?

Many probably don't.

They want the Turks--the real criminal culprits in the matter--to do
the apologizing, not the Kurds, who were merely secondary players.

Like the xxxs of World War II, Armenians feel wronged, and want
the Turks to step forward and apologize to Armenians the way German
Chancellor Willie Brandt did to xxxs and Poles for Nazi atrocities.

In 1970, the German leader visited the Monument to the Ghetto Heroes in
Warsaw and solemnly sank to his knees in a moving gesture of atonement.

The inspiring photo showed the world how to apologize for genocide.

It vividly memorialized: "One picture is worth a thousand words."

Asked why he did so, Chancellor Brandt answered:

"Under the weight of recent history, I did what people do when words
fail them. In this way I commemorated millions of murdered people."

Armenians are still waiting for a similar act from the stubborn Turks.

But, sadly, there is no sign of a Turkish version of Willie Brandt
in Ankara.

Perhaps Turks don't do remorse.

Maybe they need help in how to show humility, not just in Eastern
Europe, where they were defeated by the Russians, but also in Eastern
Anatolia, where they not only exterminated unarmed Armenian men and
then gleefully helped themselves to their women, but also told us it
was our "religious duty--jihad" to do the same.

Germans, executors of the xxxish Holocaust, have the experience to help
them, but--if they decline-- I have a man warming up in the bullpen:
Ben Affleck.

The Hollywood superstar and Turks are not paired often, but maybe
they should be, given their recent coverage.

Mr. Affleck found himself in a pickle, just as Turks have found
themselves for the past 100 years.

He had agreed to be interviewed by the producer of "Finding Your
Roots" with Henry Louis Gates Jr., only to discover that he had a
slave-owning ancestor on his mother side!

Mr. Affleck urged the producer to ignore that part of his past,
which he did.

Like the Turks, Mr. Affleck tried to rearrange history, but the past
"is never dead," as William Faulkner shrewdly observed. "It's not
even past."

When details leaked out about his ancestor's slave-owning history--and
the attempt to hide it--Mr. Affleck promptly apologized for the lapse
in judgment.

Now that he is fully liberated, he should help the 50 million or so
folks who call themselves Turks to also sip from the cup of truth.

The actor could perhaps make a movie about the founder of Turkey,
Mustafa Kemal Ataturk.

The Turkish leader did not bloody his own hands in the genocide of
Armenians, but he didn't mind benefitting from it.

And when he built a presidential palace in Ankara, he didn't hesitate
to erect it on the confiscated estate of an Armenian family.

But what he did to confiscated Armenian lands in places like Elazig,
Diyarbakir, Mardin, Mus, Bitlis and Van, just to name a few, has a
Kurdish angle to it.

He promised to give Kurds living there the Armenian lands--provided
they helped him defeat the Greeks in his war of independence for the
"Muslims," which included the Kurds.

Some Kurds sided with him, and he won his war.

But he spat on his promise--and his faithful Kurdish allies.

The Armenians were exterminated, for "inwardly" siding with the
Christian Russians.

The Kurds, though Muslims, were now declared "savages" who must be
"civilized"--meaning Turkified--whether they liked it or not.

Nine decades later, the Turkish-Kurdish hostility is as fresh as when
it was reignited by the founder of "Modern" Turkey.

A documentary covering these issues with Mr. Affleck's voiceover
might, just might, instill some sanity into the debate of
who-did-what-to-whom.

The Kurds would also benefit from it.

For example, in today's Turkey, 2,900 Armenian settlements have
Turkish names, but are inhabited primarily by Kurds.

If Turks decide to adopt decolonization as a policy, the Kurds,
if honest with themselves, should restore the Armenian names to
these settlements.

A free Kurdistan should also pay reparations to Armenia, as Germans
are paying to the state of Israel.

That would be an astonishing, highly commendable first!

Doing something so down-to-earth humane, something so unexpectedly
civilized, would be so totally opposite to the uncivilized brutality
heretofore shown by the Islamic State that it would turn the world
on its ear, and proclaim: "Look what these Kurds are doing!"

Here would be a Muslim Kurdistan showing lofty charity to a Christian
nation!

If Kurds did such an amazing thing, Armenians would surely accept our
contrition as genuine--and the world would sit up and take notice too!

- Kani Xulam is a political activist based in Washington D.C. He runs
the American Kurdish Information Network (AKIN)

- The views expressed in this article are those of the author and do
not necessarily reflect the position of Rudaw.

http://rudaw.net/english/opinion/05052015

That says the lot.

Are they afraid to associate themselves with what was said.

or the article was just a filler for the paper.

.

I agree with Londontsi's assessment . A small fraction of total population that does --- NOT --- represent the base population , is being looked upon by the world as if the Kurds as a whole have spoken . That's fraudulent . Also that's exactly what the turcs are doing by letting (tolerating) a small percentage of the turcs to go against * national policy *.
If one reads the article closely , many just (justice) things are said . However , like the incideous turc ploys to placate the victims of these crimes with a "sugar coating" , so this Kurd article does .
---- 2,900 Armenian settlements have turc names (but) are inhabited by Kurds ----
What is the Kurdish authors solution ??? As stated , change the names to Armenian names !!!
Problem addressed , vola . The Kurd author did not suggest that the Kurds should return the lands , but rather they get to keep the --- STOLEN --- properties ???? Wow !!! Good idea Kurd , mission accomplished .
So , their (Kurd) idea is to have a free Kurdistan on Armenian lands ??? Great idea Kurd.
Both the mayors of Van & Diarbakar have expressed their willingness to (let) Armenians return to these areas and live in brotherly ness . --- WOW ---. That's gotta be an Armenian dream . We could come back to the *** completelt*** devestated communities (and) have a Kurdish mayor and Kurdish neibors . We could live right next door to an Armenian house with Kurds living in it . But of course we shouldn't ask how a Kurd could be living in an Armenian dwelling .
Lots of problems with the article , dispite some very good points.
I agree with Londontsi .

[Artashes]

Re: The 100th Anniversary - and Events to Mark it

---- Ben Affleck: Portrait of islam's clueless apologetics .
By Raymond Ibrahim , October 6 , 2014 .

Unfortunately I'm not computer savvy to reprint this here.
If one reads the emmediatly preceding posts by Hakakan , Londontsi , and myself , perchance the relevancy will be apparent.

[Shant03]

Re: The 100th Anniversary - and Events to Mark it

xxxx Kurds, they are muslims pieces of xxxx just like the turks. They don't own anything and turkey wants to keep it that way so of course they are going to kiss Armenias ass..

[Chubs]

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xxxx Kurds, they are muslims pieces of xxxx just like the turks. They don't own anything and turkey wants to keep it that way so of course they are going to kiss Armenias ass..

This sentence is not just unprovoked and stupid..its also extremely hypocritcal

[Shant03]

Re: The 100th Anniversary - and Events to Mark it

This sentence is not just unprovoked and stupid..its also extremely hypocritcal

Stupid? Maybe.

Unprovoked? Not at all.

Hypocritical? Please explain?

[Eddo211]

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The Kurds are under US and Turkey's control. Northern Iraq has become Kurdistan.....even Erdogan visited there and asked for a Turkish embassy.
I don't see Kurds as friends but maybe one day we can use them against Turkey.
Empty apology its been their model these goat runners who never had a state in history.

As far as PKK I have said before.

Ocalan control PKK.....Ergenekon control Ocalan.