Georgian-South Ossetian conflict

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17 September, 2002, 19:35 GMT 20:35 UK

Caspian pipeline dream becomes reality

After years of being considered a white elephant, a pipeline project, to carry Caspian oil to the world markets, is becoming a reality.
The Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan (BTC) pipeline will start a few kilometres south of Baku, the capital of Azerbaijan, and will run through the territory of neighbouring Georgia to the Turkish Mediterranean coast.
A special ceremony on Wednesday will be attended by the presidents of Azerbaijan, Georgia and Turkey.
The US has sent its energy secretary to join the celebrations.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2263611.stm

Aug. 15, 2008

Azerbaijan reduces oil production by 80%

Eric Watkins
Senior Correspondent

LOS ANGELES, Aug. 15 – Azerbaijan has reduced its oil production by 80% as oil transport has been suspended via its export pipelines, Baku-Supsa and Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan (BTC), according to local media.
The daily Yeni Musavat said the country is currently exporting 300,000 b/d of oil instead of the usual 900,000 b/d.
Azerbaijan is losing $50-70 million/day from the shutdown of the BTC line, the paper said. It predicted that Azerbaijan will lose more than $1 billion in revenues, assuming the line is repaired by Aug. 27.
In the meantime, the paper said, Azerbaijan and international oil companies have incurred damage worth $500 million as a result of suspending exports through the Baku-Supsa line and the Baku-Tbilisi-Erzurum gas line due to the conflict between Russia and Georgia.
However, director of Azerbaijan's Oil Research Center Ilham Saban said losses by the government and oil companies had been mitigated by exports of oil via the Baku-Novorossiysk pipeline.

http://www.ogj.com/display_article/337119/120/ARTCL/none/Trasp/1/Azerbaijan-reduces-oil-production-by-80

Well.... where is dictator Saakashvilli going to get money to buy weapons from Israel now?

xxxish Georgian minister: Thanks to Israeli training, we're fending off Russia

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1010187.html

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Georgia used US and Ukrainian mercenaries in its aggression against South Ossetia

Posted by Kris Roman on August 15, 2008


Ossetians, Abkhazians and members of other Causaian minorities living in Turkey hold posters of German Nazi leader Adolf Hitler and Georgian President Mikhail Saakasvili with the words in Turkish that mean ‘ No difference’ as they shout slogans outside GeORGIA.

Simes believes that it is a possible, albeit a hard goal to achieve. Simes is certain that no one in the US political establishment incited the Georgian president to invade South Ossetia. Saakashvili simply overestimated his own significance in Washington’s eyes and misinterpreted messages, which the US administration was sending him, the expert believes.

In its turn, America decided not to fall into Russia’s confidence, especially when Georgian troops retreated beyond South Ossetian borders. In addition, Washington wanted not to keep its front going after the debacle it suffered in foreign politics.

S. Ossetian President Eduard Kokoity stated that Georgia used mercenaries from several countries during its aggression against his nation.
“There were many mercenaries from Ukraine and the Baltic states. We have found dead bodies of African Americans too,” Interfax quoted Kokoity as saying.

The official supposed that it was exactly the reason why the Georgian side had not provided any reports about the losses, which it was suffering during the military operation.

Presidents Bagapsh and Kokoity also accused Western media outlets of the schemed informational war against South Ossetia. They believe that the vast majority of Western news agencies provided the biased coverage of events.
“It was a well-prepared and thought-out action, when there was only one opinion provided – the opinion of the USA, Great Britain and several other countries. Everyone started to support this opinion,” Sergei Bagapsh said.
The president said that there were just a few countries which did not follow the fraudulent trend – Spain, France and Germany.

“The whole of Georgia talks about Russia’s bombing of Tskhinvali and South Ossetia. What are they talking about? One should not believe what the BBC or CNN said or what they will be saying,” he said.

“You may not be a professional, but a Western journalist must have at least an iota of honor and dignity. One should not lose their conscience and decency behind your profession, no matter whom you work for,” Bagapsh said.
“It was the dual informational and armed aggression. Some were wielding guns, whereas others were armed with microphones and cameras,” Kokoity said.
The S. Ossetian president said that he was not going to allow Georgian peacemakers in the republic any longer.

“There will be only Russian peacemakers deployed in South Ossetia and Abkhazia,” he said.

READ MORE -- http://eurorus4en.wordpress.com/2008...south-ossetia/

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RT interview with Paul Craig Roberts:



Paul Craig Roberts (born April 3, 1939, in Atlanta, Georgia) is an economist and a nationally syndicated columnist for Creators Syndicate. He served as an Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan Administration earning fame as the "Father of Reaganomics".

He is a former editor and columnist for the Wall Street Journal, Business Week, and Scripps Howard News Service. He is a graduate of the Georgia Institute of Technology and he holds a Ph.D. from the University of Virginia. He was a post-graduate at the University of California, Berkeley, and Oxford University where he was a member of Merton College.
In 1992 he received the Warren Brookes Award for Excellence in Journalism. In 1993 the Forbes Media Guide ranked him as one of the top seven journalists in the United States.
His writings frequently appear on Antiwar.com, VDARE.com. Lew Rockwell's web site, CounterPunch, and the American Free Press.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Craig_Roberts

YouTube - RT interview with Paul Craig Roberts

From PRESSTV:

Paul Craig Roberts says that US ordered Georgia to attack S.Ossetia

Former assistant secretary of the US Treasury, Paul Craig Roberts says the Bush administration ordered Georgia to ethnically cleanse South Ossetia.
Roberts, speaking in an exclusive interview with Press TV said that that xxxx Cheney and his neo-con cronies are out of touch with reality because they actually think that they could conquer Russia by pushing Georgia to attack South Ossetia.

Roberts also said that the current administration, guided as it is by neo-con ideologies is capable of creating another world war and using the nuclear bomb for imposing its dominance on the globe.

He said that Republican presidential hopeful John McCain has declared, “In the 21st century nations don't invade other nations.” However In the early years of the 21st century the United States has already invaded two countries and has been beating the drums for attacking Iran.
President Bush, the chief invader of the 21st century, has echoed McCain's claim that nations don't invade other nations.

The former Reagan administration official said that Ukraine, where nationalism has taken hold funded by the neo-con National Endowment for Democracy, will be the next conflict between American pretensions and Russia.

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=66707&sectionid=3510203

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Learn the Truth about the Georgia Conflict

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_2fj...eature=related

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1HJJ...eature=related

Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq8oA...eature=related

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You are being too critical, Skhara. Look at what Moscow is doing, not what its saying. Separate diplomacy/politics from reality. For undestandable reasons, you are looking at this matter emotionally. You don't need to. According to Moscow, the fighting should have stopped a week ago, yet during this time period and despite all kinds of western threats Moscow sent forces deeper into Georgia, moved on Tbilisi, destroyed Georgia's navy in Poti, hit the BTC pipeline, hit various strategic military instalations throughout Georgia, stated that Georgia can forget about its territorial integrity, and it even threatened Poland with a nuclear strike... Don't worry, Americans/European/Israeli weapons in Georgia will be used as live target practice. So let Tbilisi arm itself once again. In reality, direct American support for Georgia actually helps Moscow's geopolitial intentions in the region. Nonetheless, this campaign proved beyond doubt that the US/NATO/Israel can not conduct any types of serious business in the Caucasus region. This war was what Russia was hoping and praying for. After this action by Moscow, Russia now controls all the geopolitical and economic cards of the region in full. Even if Moscow pulled out its forces from Georgia in total, the undisputed victor - economically, politically and militarily is the Russian Federation and its regional allies. The 1990s are over. This action finally ended Yeltsin's legacy.

I have to say that I am really disappointed and extremely nervous about the outcome of this fight. I don't understand why the Russian Federation did not deliver the cou'de gra. Although they absolutely smashed the Georgian army and left them in confusion and disarray, the Americans are essentially replacing everything the Georgians lost and much more. Unless Moscow has something else up her sleave this is extremely nerve-wrecking to me. The fact that Georgia lost is no doubt, but now Washington is pouring in everything its got back in...

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Georgians doing forced labor in South Ossetia

Teams of ethnic Georgians, some under armed guard, were being forced to clean the streets of South Ossetia's capital on Saturday. It was the first apparent evidence of humiliation or abuse of Georgians in the Russian-controlled breakaway republic.

Three teams of ethnic Georgians, men in their 40s and 50s, were seen cleaning the streets of Tskhinvali, which was badly damaged in the fighting. When approached, one worker confirmed that he was being forced to work.

One group of about two dozen men was escorted through the streets by armed Ossetians and a Russian officer.

"Labor even turns monkeys into humans," the Russian officer said. He threatened to arrest an AP photographer if he took pictures.

The city was bombed and hit by heavy rocket fire when Georgia launched an offensive Aug. 7 to retake the separatist republic, and it saw fierce street battles after Russia responded to the Georgian attack by sending in hundreds of tanks.

From http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...cle%2FShowFull

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The baboons have learned a new trick from the cyber-Georgian-S. Ossetian-war. Why the fuk do we put up with this crap? This is the third attack in less than a week and we have failed to produce any sort of counter-attack.
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Azerbaijani hackers attack websites of Armenian ministries - UPDATED
14 August 2008 [11:05] - Today.Az

14.08.08

11:05

According to the Armenian government, Azerbaijani hackers attacked all websites of 18 ministries of the Armenian government.

According to the source, the attack started on August 12.

Armenian programmers currently attempt to resist the hacker attack.

Baboon source http://www.today.az/news/society/46953.html

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Dashnaks Want Armenian Role In Georgia Mediation

By Emil Danielyan

Echoing statements by the opposition, the Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Dashnaktsutyun) on Friday urged official Yerevan to join in international efforts to stop the Russian-Georgian conflict over South Ossetia and Abkhazia.

The party’s governing Bureau warned that continued chaos in “friendly” Georgia and deepening tensions between Russia and the West would seriously hurt Armenia.

“We hope that after the dramatic confrontations both the conflicting parties and the international community will find ways of pacifying the region and settling existing problems by civilized means,” it said in a statement. “Armenia can and should join in those efforts.”

Armenia has kept a very low profile in the crisis in a country that serves as its main conduit to the outside world. President Serzh Sarkisian called for its peaceful settlement and offered condolences to his Russian and Georgian counterparts only after returning from a week-long vacation in China late Wednesday.

Sarkisian’s refusal to cut short his summer holiday has been strongly criticized by the main opposition Armenian National Congress (HAK). In a Wednesday statement, the HAK came up with a list of Georgia-related measures which it believes need to be taken urgently. It said Yerevan should, among other things, voice support for international mediation efforts, facilitate the evacuation of foreigners via Armenian territory, send humanitarian aid to Georgia and provide medical assistance to civilian victims of the fighting.

Sarkisian appears to have done just that at a Thursday meeting of Armenia’s National Security Council. In particular, he welcomed “constructive initiatives aimed at establishing peace and stability in the region” and ordered immigration authorities to ease visa requirements for foreigners fleeing Georgia.

According to the Armenian embassy in Tbilisi, as many 18,000 have been evacuated to Armenia since the August 8 outbreak of large-scale fighting in South Ossetia. Less than half of them are Armenian citizens.

From http://www.armenialiberty.org/armeni...E6BA7D05D4.ASP

[Federate]

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Serzh Sargsyan Had a Phone Conversation with Saakashvili

Serzh Sargsyan had a telephone conversation with Georgian president Mikhail Saakashvili on August 15.
According to the press bureau of the president, S.Sargsyan has sent his condolences concerned with the recent events in Georgia which caused death of hundreds of people. S.Sargsyan restated Armenia’s willingness to provide necessary humanitarian support to those suffered during the South Ossetia conflict.

From http://www.panorama.am/en/politics/2.../16/president/

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The only leader to have defeated Israel speaks.
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US, Israel forsook Georgia amidst storm'
Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:47:34 GMT

The Hezbollah leader says Georgia's failure in Ossetia is a lesson to those who go on blind adventures with the US and Israeli support.

"Georgia relied on Israeli generals as well as Israeli weapons and faced failure", Seyyed Hassan Nasrallah said in a speech marking the second anniversary of the 33-day war with Israel in summer 2006.

The remarks were made shortly after Georgia faced a harsh response from Russia in its military action to retake control of South Ossetia last week.

The Hezbollah leader said "what happened in Georgia is a message to all those (governments) who rely on America's support and encouragement to go on adventures and wars which have not been properly studied".

Many believe the US military support and its trumpeting of Tblisi's NATO membership encouraged President Mikheil Saakashvili to launch the attack.

Analysts say Saakashvili miscalculated the Russian response to his forces entering the breakaway region. He waged the war but was not able to convince any NATO countries to support him.

"What America does is just to make statements".... urge nations to risk military "confrontations which see no end and at the end abandon" the embattled nation, Nasrallah said.

Tbilisi's failure, however could be a salutary lesson to its neighbors inclined to confront Moscow from under the US or Israeli security umbrella.

From http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id...onid=351020203