Muslims occupy Europe

[KanadaHye]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

What about women “emancipation” you preach? How does it fit with the women rights you promote; they don’t want to take burden of having children; because it doesn’t let them doing career.

I guess some liberal men are enforced inventing baby production lines to make the “developed” women free in fact and fight the Muslim baby boom. Having many children doesn’t allow western women exercise in reality their “rights”.

So what rights are those? The right to have a 5 bedroom home but no kids? The right to have a $30,000 kitchen but never cook or eat at home? Western civilization is all about consumption and waste with no value for life. It feeds the East.

[Haykakan]

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For those of you who want to make women into bredding machines, i would like to remind you that the world does not have the resources to support population growth at the levels many muslim countries are experiencing. Instead of talking them into controling their populations it seems many here are suggesting we out do them instead. Imagine what a overpopulated world with used up recources would look like, do you want your kid to live in such a world? Just because u see some idiot putting a bullet in his brain doesnt mean you have to do it to. Armenia has enough land and resources to grow the population, the biggest problem for Armenia is not the fact that the birth rate is low(although it is a problem but not the biggest) the big problem is that half the population left and those who were gone long ago are not moving back. The xxxs who didnt have a homeland, created one and many moved to live there while we had a homeland but are in a great hurry to leave it. Not that i blame the people who left in search of a better life but i do think we armenians especialy in the diaspora could and should have done more to make Armenia a place where we all would like to live in. It has been my personal experience that the people who talk the loudest about being hairenaser are usually the ones who never visit their hairenik but are in a great hurry to get to syria or lebanon again and again-go figure.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

For those of you who want to make women into bredding machines, i would like to remind you that the world does not have the resources to support population growth at the levels many muslim countries are experiencing.

Certainly can't turn men into breeding machines, it doesn't work that way.... yet, lol.

Who cares about the rest of the world, Armenia is heading towards American life and that in itself spells disaster.

Explain to me why a couple who has no kids needs a 5 bedroom, 3 bathroom home? Or even better, someone who is single! Come on, defending the West is laughable at this point.

[Anonymouse]

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but one of the criteria for "turcishness" was adherence to islam. The young turcs had to create a turc race from the polyglot of peoples in the ottoman empire, religion was more important in deciding a person being a turc than anything else.

That is only partially true. Islam was always an ancillary connection. The Pan-Turkism is a nationalist movement. Bear in mind the Young Turks were influenced by European nationalism and parliamentarianism.

All religions have gone through the phase of expansionism and conversions, both forced and not. The modern worlds problem is that islam is stuck in this "conquer and control" phase with the technological and military hardware available and makes devastating use of these.

And why does Islam all of a sudden want violence? Does it have anything to do with American and Israeli foreign policy? And how do you suppose Islam obtained all its weapons and support? Perhaps CIA connections? Let's put things into perspective folks, the world is not a morally unambiguous world of "good" and "evil." That sort of simplistic divisions of the world are only pipedreams of idiots and exactly what some hawks in the State Department and Pentagon would have you believe.

[Anonymouse]

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If they do take over Europe, that means more land for them to launch themselves out of onto even more of the world.

Now Islam is like Communism? This is sillier than Bush's parachute landing.

[Muhaha]

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Now Islam is like Communism? This is sillier than Bush's parachute landing.

What's special about the European continent that makes it the final stop for Muslims? All groups seek expansion.

[gegev]

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Reflecting your myopia, you have chosen to appeal to your ignorance and ignore contrary points and evade the point I made. Congratulations on being an igeological toad.

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And why does Islam all of a sudden want violence?
...

"all of a sudden"?

Be careful!

This is the myopia syndrome you have been talking about. Exercise your famous wisdom.

Congratulations, you aren't an igeological toad, you are something bigger! With a key inside.

[Christina]

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First, as to the reply to the poster that relied to my post as re: the article on the
French govt and their passing legislation as to making a ban on the burqua and
head coverings like this.

As for the statement I recall about saying there was a lot of anti this and that
on the board as per Muslims, or Islam. That is not so.

I have reviewed the Koran so I know very well what it says. I have no reason to
lie, I have nothing to gain from it. There is alot of facts from the Koran I want
to cite, chapter and verse and bring to everyone's attention, but I will not state
anything else until it is reviewed by the moderator. I want to reply here and I
want to comply. So hopefully I will receive my answer then I can put it up here.

[Christina]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

I will say this, hopefully it is okay.

The Turkish regime still stands by it's stubborn replies as that there was no
genocide. But how can they continue to say this? The say no horrible things were
done to the Armenians and Greeks and Assyrians and other minorities.

The Turkish people are Muslims. Their bible is the Koran. The Koran they claim
is "infallable". Their Koran clearly in so many sections, I can cite alot of verses,
states that all the true believers are to do things, the exact things which by the
way did happen in 1868, 1909, 1915 and 1922 to the Armenians and the Greeks
and Assyrians. The Koran stated it was lawful and right to do those things.

Hence, if the Turkish regime claims it did not happen, then they are contradicting
their Koran.

From the American English version: The Holy Koran, Maulana Muhamminad Ali,

With English translation and commentary.

Sura al-Anfal 8:41,69
Sura al-Ma'ida 5:89,
Sura al-Nisa 4:157-158
Sura al-Baqara 2:230

Sura al-Nisa 4:34
Sura al-Anfal 8:39, 65
Sura al-Baqara 2:256
Sura al-Nahl 16:125
Sura al-Ra'd 13:40
Sura al-Ma'ida 5:51
Sura al-Anfal 8:60
Sura al-nahl 16:106
Sura al Imran 3:121
Sura al-Nisa 4:76
Sura al-Anfal 8:67
Sura al-baqara 2:216, 244
Sura al-Anfal 8:65
Sura al-baqara 2:217
Sura al-Tawba 9:41,73!

Sura al-Anfal 8:60 Invasion

Sura al-Nisa 4:84
Sura Muhammad 47:4-6,35

I can cite more.

Some may of duplicated on this list as I was going section by section and this is
how it repeated .

[Christina]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

The bottom caption of a page of the Koran clearly stated it was the aim of Islam
and duty to place a mosque in all strategic cities of the world and then the aim is to
put all the world under Islam.

They invaded what people now call the nation "Turkey" and they went to Constantinople
(I refuse to call it the 'I" word), butchered the Emperor and those in the city
and they took their heads and placed it on the table while the king of the invaders
ate and celebrated. They forced with weapons the conversion and death of Greeks,
Armenians, and other minorities.

Then they were sending a clear message, this is their intention and sadly no one
got this point--until it was too late in 1868, 1909, 1915 and 1922.

The Trukish regime then was not satisfied and they invaded Greece! The people had
to suffer under the Ottoman regime for 400 years! The Greeks were close knit and
stubborn and held stead fast to the faith, and that is why today--the Greek guards
wrap their pleats each pleat is for each year they suffered under the Trukish muslims.

This is so they remember !

And the balkans too suffered from this.

And then there is Spain and it took Queen Isabella to wake everyone up.
I know, the Inquisition went too far, they ought not to have gone after the xxxs,
for the real issue was the Muslims invasion of Spain and their trying to spread
Islam.

It is one thing for a people to visit a nation. It is one thing to decide to reside there.
But it is common sense: one has to obey the laws of that country. if they do not like
it, they are free to leave.

In Greece, the local Iman wants the laws of the city changed to suit his religious
values--he wants the laws to be that all women have to wear the burqua--and this
is insulting to the Greeks-the locals--why should their woman also be subjected to
this rule?
On top of all of this, any group of people that wants to live in another country
has to show respect as they are not the masters of the nation, they are like
guests.

Take the issue of the Iman that wants a huge mosque build in the area of
Ground Zero for the Americans in NYC--he refuses to say where the estimated $ 110
million dollars for it is coming from! if he has nothing to hide, why all this fuss
he is refusing to answer any decent inquiries?

Why near or on this site? it is insulting to the Americans that gave their lives for
freedom for USA and the world!

In Britian there was a Muslim community that wanted a mosque built on a special
area that was sacred to the British people. There is a famous well respected British
man and he did a video for the Americans that states the insult it was to the British,
so the citizens woke up and stated how they felt and the govt listened and lo and
behold--no mosque was allowed to be built on that area!

Not only that, but in the first Iraq USA war invasion, under the original President
Bush, they needed to land and have a base in Saudi Arabia--yet the regime there
said no Churches, no prayers of the troops in their faiths--no xxxish, no Christian,
no Buddhist, nothing. They could not wear a cross, no signs of their faith.

So this is amazing that this is the regime, and it is true, the King of Saudi Arabia
gives millions to build mosques all over the globe.

There is a well known saying, "if you want to know what is important to a man-
look to see where and how he spends his money."

Then add the motto: "actions speak louder than words."

I think the real agenda of Islam is really clear.