Free Palestine - The Struggle

[Mos]

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Between the rule of Israel and the King of Jordan.... "Palestine" is just going to be another United States of Israel.

what else can you expect when US is leading negotiations?

[KanadaHye]

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Both Palestine and Israel especially, seem to have warm relations with Azerbaijan...

Between the rule of Israel and the King of Jordan.... "Palestine" is just going to be another United States of Israel.

[Mos]

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Both Palestine and Israel especially, seem to have warm relations with Azerbaijan...

[Mos]

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Palestinian leader to visit Baku this year
Wed 20 April 2011 07:19 GMT | 3:19 Local Time
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Mahmoud Abbas
Palestine is keen to enhance relations with Azerbaijan, the Palestinian Authority's first ambassador in Baku has said.
"Common religion, traditions, customs and history unite our countries," Nassir Abdul Karim said in an interview with APA.
"There is a good foundation for this. Azerbaijan has always supported Palestine in international organizations, including the UN. This policy is still being continued. In its turn, Palestine supports Azerbaijan on the Karabakh problem. Another feature uniting us is that though Azerbaijan and Palestine are Muslim countries, they are secular societies.

"I think that there is great potential for economic, commercial, scientific and humanitarian relations between the two countries. Now we should improve the economic relations. Students from Palestine are studying in Baku. We need medical workers, engineers. Azerbaijan has great scientific potential in these spheres. Some of my relatives once studied in Baku. Moreover, there are good prospects for cooperation in culture, tourism and information exchange," he said.

Nassir Abdul Karim said Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas was expected to visit Azerbaijan by the end of the year:
“President Ilham Aliyev invited his Palestinian counterpart to Baku and the invitation was accepted with pleasure. A state visit requires long, serious preparation. Now we are dealing with the preparatory work. A date has not been set yet, but we are looking forward to organizing the visit by the end of the year. I was appointed to Azerbaijan by Mahmoud Abbas and he urged me to organize this visit. Now our embassy is seriously dealing with this work.”

Commenting on the recent settlement plan to give part of Jordanian land to Palestine, the ambassador said: “This is an idea of Israeli hardliners. We have no problems with Jordan and no territorial claims against our neighbour. The idea of joining Jordanian land to Palestine is groundless. The Palestinian territories were not seized by Jordan, but by Israel and we demand that Israel withdraw from our land.”

The ambassador said that negotiations on a settlement of the conflict were suspended currently. "The negotiations were de facto suspended. We intend to restore the contacts. xxxish settlements in the Palestinian territories must be ended. The only way to sustainable peace passes through the establishment of an independent Palestinian state. US President Barack Obama said in his UN address last year that an independent Palestinian state must be established by September 2011. All over the world there is support for the idea of an independent Palestinian state."

Commenting on unrest in Arab countries, Nassir Abdul Kareem said: "We don’t intend to interfere in the domestic problems of other countries. Every country is unique and every society has its own dynamics of development. We advocate stable processes and non-violence everywhere."

APA

[KanadaHye]

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at the same time, Israel is debating Genocide Recognition (though I'm more than certain it will be rejected)..

But interestingly enough, the article does not mention if Armenia said they would vote in favour, just that Armenia has 'balanced approach'.

That's politics for "We don't favour either side but are willing to accept bribes to even the balance".

[Mos]

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Very interesting. We should at the very least establish relations.
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Palestinian official asked Armenia for assistance

By Times.am at 20 June, 2011, 6:03 pm

RA Minister for Foreign Affairs Edward Nalbandyan has received today Nabil Shaas, former Minister of Foreign Affairs, head of the international department of the Palestinian “Fatah” movement, press service of Armenian MFA informs.

Ed. Nalbandyan welcomed the guest and noted that Armenian nation had the warmest feelings towards Arabic nations and Armenia had dynamically developing relations with Arabic countries.
Speaking about the Armenian-Palestinian relations, Ed. Nalbandyan noted that Armenian President was among the first leaders who visited Ramalah officially and had meeting with the leader of Palestinian autonomous leadership.

Armenian Minister noted that Armenia followed the last developments in Arabic countries and hoped the last developments in the region would assist the democracy to be established there.

The sides also discussed some issues of bilateral interests. Middle East issue settlement was touched upon as well.
Nabil Shaas thanked for the balanced attitude which Armenia always shows towards the Middle East problems at the international organizations. Head of the Palestinian delegation asked Armenian side to assist to announce Palestinian independence.

/Times.am/

http://times.am/2011/06/20/palestini...or-assistance/

at the same time, Israel is debating Genocide Recognition (though I'm more than certain it will be rejected)..

But interestingly enough, the article does not mention if Armenia said they would vote in favour, just that Armenia has 'balanced approach'.

[Federate]

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Very interesting. We should at the very least establish relations.
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Palestinian official asked Armenia for assistance

By Times.am at 20 June, 2011, 6:03 pm

RA Minister for Foreign Affairs Edward Nalbandyan has received today Nabil Shaas, former Minister of Foreign Affairs, head of the international department of the Palestinian “Fatah” movement, press service of Armenian MFA informs.

Ed. Nalbandyan welcomed the guest and noted that Armenian nation had the warmest feelings towards Arabic nations and Armenia had dynamically developing relations with Arabic countries.
Speaking about the Armenian-Palestinian relations, Ed. Nalbandyan noted that Armenian President was among the first leaders who visited Ramalah officially and had meeting with the leader of Palestinian autonomous leadership.

Armenian Minister noted that Armenia followed the last developments in Arabic countries and hoped the last developments in the region would assist the democracy to be established there.

The sides also discussed some issues of bilateral interests. Middle East issue settlement was touched upon as well.
Nabil Shaas thanked for the balanced attitude which Armenia always shows towards the Middle East problems at the international organizations. Head of the Palestinian delegation asked Armenian side to assist to announce Palestinian independence.

/Times.am/

http://times.am/2011/06/20/palestinian-official-asked-armenia-for-assistance/

[Mos]

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Yeah, that's true, we should get something from the Israeli's for not recognising Palestine. We wouldn't do it regardless, because of Artsakh, but it's still good to get something positive out of it. I really hope Azerbaijan votes for it (following Turkey) to disrupt Azeri-Israeli relations a bit.

In all, we shouldn't get to involved in the Palestinian/Israeli issue, not our region, and to messy in my opinion. We should just pursue whatever fits our national interests, more accurately for Artsakh.

[Federate]

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That is another issue and one which I think should be looked into by the Armenian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the NSC, and the President. Some issues to consider:
How would Armenian recognition of Palestine affect Armenians in Jerusalem, especially the Armenian Quarter, and Armenians in israel in general? Another question to be raised is would israel be willing to forgo some of its military ties with azerbaijan if Armenia did not recognize Palestine. I think they would not, and to be honest israel probably does not care too much what Armenia decides, of course they would rather all nations reject the resolution, but they care more about the power players on the international stage.

Indeed. We should try to get something out of this in return. Maybe some kind of guarantee for the Armenian quarter, at the very least.

[Armanen]

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We should barter to our advantage. Either something with Israel and if they reject, something with the Palestinians. Recognition of Artsakh would be nice. A longshot, but should be attempted.

That is another issue and one which I think should be looked into by the Armenian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the NSC, and the President. Some issues to consider:
How would Armenian recognition of Palestine affect Armenians in Jerusalem, especially the Armenian Quarter, and Armenians in israel in general? Another question to be raised is would israel be willing to forgo some of its military ties with azerbaijan if Armenia did not recognize Palestine. I think they would not, and to be honest israel probably does not care too much what Armenia decides, of course they would rather all nations reject the resolution, but they care more about the power players on the international stage.