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  • crusader1492
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    Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

    Originally posted by HayotzAmrotz View Post
    There was a class of Ottoman Armenians known as The Loyal Servants, or simply slaves as I call them. Throughout centuries this minority within the Armenian community was entrusted by the Turks with a very important task: The Destruction of the Armenian Nationalism. The Loyal Servants mastered their task and succeeded in having a generation upon a generation of Armenians being made slaves of the Ottomans. But when groups of young Russian Armenians appeared in the Ottoman Empire the Loyal Servants became worried as they knew that their privileged position was under a threat because these youngsters managed to awaken the hero spirit of their ancestors in many of the Ottoman Armenians. Ara Baliozian is a remnant of these Loyal Servants, a Turkish slave of Armenian origin still serving his old masters. These slaves together with their masters have managed to destroy half of our nation but we have managed to survive and against all odds we have a country. No wonder they hate us and our country (Hayvanistan as Ara calls it), no wonder they want to see us beaten and humiliated, no wonder they want our end. But their dream will never come true it will die an agonizing death together with them.
    Thanks for this post...the Armenian nation during the ottoman empire was full if these slaves. Thankfully, they are of no consequence now. They were all killed too, inspite of their loyal service.

    You would think people like Siamanto and Freaky would open their eyes about Ara when he refers to Armenia as "Hayvanistan" (Turkish translation: "land of animals"). This isn't hateful?
    Last edited by crusader1492; 01-30-2008, 08:12 AM.

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  • Armenian
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    Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

    Originally posted by crusader1492 View Post
    Now this is hooliganism
    It is also quite accurate, they do act like one year olds...

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  • crusader1492
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    Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

    Originally posted by arabaliozian View Post
    by the way, nationalism destroyed us, it did not save us.
    let's not lie about facts.
    nationalism has created more wars and massacres than any other ideology. that's another fact.
    let's not lie about that either.
    the central tenet of all religions, including our own is: ALL MEN ARE BROTHERS.
    say AMEN to that, brother! / ara
    Who is this "us" you are refering to? The "loyal servant" class? If so, good riddance.

    Anyway Ara, do you think one day you can post somthing more than "because I said so posts"? How about actually engaging in critical conversation and answering HyeAmrotz' s charge that Ottoman "loyal servant's" (and remnants thereof) were responsible for the destruction of Armenia.

    What do you say, brother?
    Last edited by crusader1492; 01-30-2008, 07:57 AM.

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  • crusader1492
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    Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

    Originally posted by TomServo View Post
    Now this is hooliganism

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  • Armenian
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    Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

    Originally posted by HayotzAmrotz View Post
    There was a class of Ottoman Armenians known as The Loyal Servants, or simply slaves as I call them. Throughout centuries this minority within the Armenian community was entrusted by the Turks with a very important task: The Destruction of the Armenian Nationalism. The Loyal Servants mastered their task and succeeded in having a generation upon a generation of Armenians being made slaves of the Ottomans. But when groups of young Russian Armenians appeared in the Ottoman Empire the Loyal Servants became worried as they knew that their privileged position was under a threat because these youngsters managed to awaken the hero spirit of their ancestors in many of the Ottoman Armenians. Ara Baliozian is a remnant of these Loyal Servants, a Turkish slave of Armenian origin still serving his old masters. These slaves together with their masters have managed to destroy half of our nation but we have managed to survive and against all odds we have a country. No wonder they hate us and our country (Hayvanistan as Ara calls it), no wonder they want to see us beaten and humiliated, no wonder they want our end. But their dream will never come true it will die an agonizing death together with them.
    Bravo!

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  • arabaliozian
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    Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

    by the way, nationalism destroyed us, it did not save us.
    let's not lie about facts.
    nationalism has created more wars and massacres than any other ideology. that's another fact.
    let's not lie about that either.
    the central tenet of all religions, including our own is: ALL MEN ARE BROTHERS.
    say AMEN to that, brother! / ara

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  • arabaliozian
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    Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

    Wednesday, January 30, 2008
    ********************************************
    REASON AND AUTHORITY
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    Theophylactus Simocatta the Egyptian (500-630 A.D.): “By reason, men converge toward one another and advance from the outer surface to the inner mind. Reason has showered innumerable blessings upon men and is an admirable collaborator with nature.”
    *
    If one is brought up to respect authority, those in authority are brought up to deceive and intimidate. Authority and subservience produce dogmatism, intolerance, and ultimately war and massacre. Is anarchy the answer? No. Skepticism? Yes. Don’t believe everything you are told. Authority is a double-edged sword that speaks with a forked tongue. Its main concern is to legitimize its own power at all cost even if it means the conscious avoidance of truth and the destruction of the world.
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    The best way to achieve immortality is to speak the truth to liars, for liars have the memory of elephants.
    #

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  • Lernakan
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    Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

    Originally posted by HayotzAmrotz View Post
    There was a class of Ottoman Armenians known as The Loyal Servants, or simply slaves as I call them. Throughout centuries this minority within the Armenian community was entrusted by the Turks with a very important task: The Destruction of the Armenian Nationalism. The Loyal Servants mastered their task and succeeded in having a generation upon a generation of Armenians being made slaves of the Ottomans. But when groups of young Russian Armenians appeared in the Ottoman Empire the Loyal Servants became worried as they knew that their privileged position was under a threat because these youngsters managed to awaken the hero spirit of their ancestors in many of the Ottoman Armenians. Ara Baliozian is a remnant of these Loyal Servants, a Turkish slave of Armenian origin still serving his old masters. These slaves together with their masters have managed to destroy half of our nation but we have managed to survive and against all odds we have a country. No wonder they hate us and our country (Hayvanistan as Ara calls it), no wonder they want to see us beaten and humiliated, no wonder they want our end. But their dream will never come true it will die an agonizing death together with them.
    Amen!

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  • HayotzAmrotz
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    Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

    There was a class of Ottoman Armenians known as The Loyal Servants, or simply slaves as I call them. Throughout centuries this minority within the Armenian community was entrusted by the Turks with a very important task: The Destruction of the Armenian Nationalism. The Loyal Servants mastered their task and succeeded in having a generation upon a generation of Armenians being made slaves of the Ottomans. But when groups of young Russian Armenians appeared in the Ottoman Empire the Loyal Servants became worried as they knew that their privileged position was under a threat because these youngsters managed to awaken the hero spirit of their ancestors in many of the Ottoman Armenians. Ara Baliozian is a remnant of these Loyal Servants, a Turkish slave of Armenian origin still serving his old masters. These slaves together with their masters have managed to destroy half of our nation but we have managed to survive and against all odds we have a country. No wonder they hate us and our country (Hayvanistan as Ara calls it), no wonder they want to see us beaten and humiliated, no wonder they want our end. But their dream will never come true it will die an agonizing death together with them.

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  • TomServo
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