Cultural disappearance.

[TJ]

its called progress. in 88 years theyve invented a couple of things like the telephone and other modern wonders that have an effect on people. just because they changed doesnt mean theyve assimilated. they are still armenians and most of them have a lot more armenian culture than "american culture"

[Anonymouse]

Well since I don't know what in God's bong you two are talking about so I'll just post Turkey-themed images and wait for this thread to be in page 2 of the threads.

[sSsflamesSs]

Originally posted by TigranJamharian its called progress. in 88 years theyve invented a couple of things like the telephone and other modern wonders that have an effect on people. just because they changed doesnt mean theyve assimilated. they are still armenians and most of them have a lot more armenian culture than "american culture"

Then what do you call all those youngsters going out of their miserable ways to act black, gangsta...bla bla? I don't know if you've noticed, but most armenians in the Diaspora don't put much importance on marrying an Armenian. They say, hey, if it's love, then race/ethnicity doesn't matter. Sadly, I USED TO think the same way, until I moved to California from another state (which had virtually no Armenians there, which is why I chose to move to CA) and realized how close to extinction we really are, whether you like it or not. Face it, our culture is going down the drain, unless we are willing to go back.

[Anonymouse]

This doesn't necessarily apply to Armenians.

I mean all of Europe, by 2050 will be majority non-"white", and "white" is simply a political term I'll have you know, no different than "black".

While some people are more "Caucasoid" or "Negroid" has no bearing on such terms as "white or black".

Europe itself is in population implosion so by 2050 it will be majority "non white" as its labor force is comprised mostly of non citizens of the said countries.

But then again, no one has ever had a fixed identity for all time, so identities and peoples and cultures eventually do change, disappear, and give birth to new ones. Outcomes can be reversed but it is hard and as usually is the case, no one is excused from the laws of history and sadly to say that Armenians will do disappear at a given time.

What puzzles me is that only "white" countries, namely "Europe" and "America", embrace the idea of "diversity" and "multiculturalism" while other countries don't.

"Multiculturalism" or "diversity" is one of the many variables of why all empires and civilizations fall eventually ( one of the variables of chaos theory ).

One can argue that diversity in the U.S. will eventually result in the empire splitting, much like Rome, or the Soviet Union, into smaller territories respective of the groups that comprise it.

So the idea that "diversity" is healthy, from the standpoint of maintaining homogeneity is fallacious, and homogeneity is one of the pillars of the "State".

Cheers.

[TJ]

but the soviet union was never a homogeneous state. russia basically just took over its neighbors then after a while everyone wanted out again. and by the way europe doesnt exactly embrace diversity, they still have some brains left. we Armenians are a result of assimilation, we come from a mix or urartians and tribes from the greek peninsula htat took over and mixed with the urartians. or so thats how one of the most popular theories goes.

[Anonymouse]

Originally posted by TigranJamharian but the soviet union was never a homogeneous state. russia basically just took over its neighbors then after a while everyone wanted out again. and by the way europe doesnt exactly embrace diversity, they still have some brains left. we Armenians are a result of assimilation, we come from a mix or urartians and tribes from the greek peninsula htat took over and mixed with the urartians. or so thats how one of the most popular theories goes.

I didn't the SU was a homogenous state. Other States however do claim homogeneity. It crumbled because of forcing other cultures into one single State. Take a look a Japan for example, no matter how much it talks of 'diversity' or imports western goods and movies, Japan has remained characteristically Japanese.

Europe embraces diversity. If you haven't noticed this, take a look at the two major European countries such as France and UK. Other countries such as Spain or Germany have a labor force that is mainly from other countries.

I know Armenians are a result of influences and amalgamations of different peoples, and you probably didn't know this without reading Armenian ethnogenesis, but so is everyone else, that is my point. No one is "pure". But after a certain point those influences have created a distinct culture. Now with that said, if those people disappear then so does their culture, it's simply logical. "Armenians" have historically been blessed in that they have been able to absorb and take influences from other peoples and survive and grow, extremely resilient. However, at one point they will eventually be absorbed by someone else with the new onset of interconnectedness throughout the world and population shifts and mass immigrations. They aren't confined to that region of the Armenian plateau as they have historically been, and therefore can't absorb the influences that come and go, they are now spread out on a world scale.

[TJ]

well then if what you are saying is true the world should eventually be one big nationality with no distinctions at all and we will all have beige skin and brown hair and be 5 10 and have brown eyes. oh how uninteresting and disgusting the world is getting.

[Anonymouse]

Indeed.

The same people who support 'diversity' are unaware that their policy eventually leads to a lack of diversity.

Hence government interference with "affirmitive action" and "egalitarian legislation" and forcing private business owners to hire minorities or homosexuals or what have you, should be done away with.

That is a gross violation of private property rights.