guns

[SagGal]

Originally posted by whitelotus you kill them in self defence, it is not murder, its considered self defence , if proven. And its proven by the angles the person was shot at, falls etc, and what the circumstances are .

it doesnt matter what there intention is, they break into your house, its breaking and entering, you have a good reason to think they are going to harm you, or they would ring the door bell.

like u said, "if proven," how would u prove it? The person is laying there dead. How will u prove that the person came after u that u shot him/her? "If" what? The person is dead. Police asks u what happens, u say the person came at me and tried to kill me? Can u prove it?
Ok, so the break into ur house and u automatically gott ago for the gun. That's so drastic.
omg, i'm getting all worked up over this topic. I should chill yes, that's better

[Xpeed]

Originally posted by violette829 I see it as okay to use a gun just to scare off someone, but as far as using it....that's wrong TO ME!

Use a gun to scare off people? Its people like you that get shot. That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. If you don’t want to harm anyone why pull out a gun.

Ill get flamed for this by the gun lovers but if someone brakes into your home the safest thing you can do is lock yourself in a room call 911. It is a real bad idea to try to defend yourself when you don’t know how to. And this is not a move its real life you would actually have to know how to shoot a gun and people don’t die instantly from a gunshot unless it’s a vital organ and they usually will have time to kick your ass and take your gun from you a cap your ass.

[loseyourname]

Originally posted by Xpeed It is a real bad idea to try to defend yourself when you don’t know how to. And this is not a move its real life you would actually have to know how to shoot a gun and people don’t die instantly from a gunshot unless it’s a vital organ and they usually will have time to kick your ass and take your gun from you a cap your ass.

Shoot out the kneecaps. They won't be bothering you. Of course, you'd still need to know how to use the gun.

[SagGal]

Originally posted by Xpeed ...It is a real bad idea to try to defend yourself when you don’t know how to. And this is not a move its real life you would actually have to know how to shoot a gun and people don’t die instantly from a gunshot unless it’s a vital organ and they usually will have time to kick your ass and take your gun from you a cap your ass.

EXACTLY!!!

[Xpeed]

Originally posted by SagGal like u said, "if proven," how would u prove it? The person is laying there dead. How will u prove that the person came after u that u shot him/her? "If" what? The person is dead. Police asks u what happens, u say the person came at me and tried to kill me? Can u prove it?
Ok, so the break into ur house and u automatically gott ago for the gun. That's so drastic.
omg, i'm getting all worked up over this topic. I should chill yes, that's better

It can be prove if it was self-defense from the bullets point of entry and the angle, forensic science. The problem with the California law in self-defense is you are guilty until proven innocent. The only place where you can shoot a person in your property and not be questioned is Colorado.

[Xpeed]

Originally posted by loseyourname Shoot out the kneecaps. They won't be bothering you. Of course, you'd still need to know how to use the gun.

That’s what I am talking about, you cant do that in the real world the person is not going to stand still for you to shoot the knee caps, if you guys must know the correct way to defend yourself is aim at the chest because it has lots of vital organs and is the biggest part of the body and empty your clip until the person is not moving anymore. That’s how you defend yourself, now how many of you are willing to go that far.

And one shot doesn’t stop a person because your body has natural pain killers and for a few second he will not even know he was shot and if you are scared to pull the trigger he has more than enough time to take your gun from you.

[violette829]

Originally posted by SagGal OK, this is definitely a serious issue to discuss. I personally wouldn't want guns to be legal because I do not see how they are protection. If an intruder breaks into your home and attacks your family, I assume that u would shoot the intruder to save your family, right? Well, if you kill the intruder, then u committed a crime. I mean, u just killed a person and what is your proof that the intruder was going to kill you? Some say that they just keep guns in the house not to shoot, but just to scare off the intruders. Yea Right. People get tempted to use the gun. Besides, how do u think the intruder got the gun? Duh, guns r legal!
Also, some people are very careless when it comes to guns. I mean, yea, u hide the gun where your children can't reach it, but accident death still happen. This has been said a lot of time and that’s because it's true and people just don’t seem to take it seriously.
Question: You guys would actually shoot a person???
I personally can't imagine myself actually shooting a person. That is still a crime.
This is just my opinion though, so....yea.

OH wow..I totally agree with u on this one...A person has to have an ability to shoot another human being. I, personally, can't do that. The same goes for murderers.....u have to have something wrong inside of u that allows u to do that....What happened to the good ol' days of using ur fists?

[violette829]

Originally posted by omniscient A few years ago I would have said NO. But nowadays I can easily see myself shooting a person. Sorry but it's the truth, especially if someone pushes me beyond my limits (extreme limits).

Thank u for informing us about ur limits...I'm deathly afraid now..LOL

[violette829]

Originally posted by Xpeed Use a gun to scare off people? Its people like you that get shot. That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. If you don’t want to harm anyone why pull out a gun.

Ill get flamed for this by the gun lovers but if someone brakes into your home the safest thing you can do is lock yourself in a room call 911. It is a real bad idea to try to defend yourself when you don’t know how to. And this is not a move its real life you would actually have to know how to shoot a gun and people don’t die instantly from a gunshot unless it’s a vital organ and they usually will have time to kick your ass and take your gun from you a cap your ass.

OH I agree with u...I was just trying to prove a point that I would never actually be able to shoot it...I don't own one, and I never will...and I'm scared because I know my next door neighbor might have one..or my child's (future) friends might have one in the house...that scares me....I don't like this thread...I'm too scared now... Harsh reality of life.....

[PASAMONSTER]

For the people that can't shoot another person
its alright it takes time
after the first and the second
you start to get used to it.

one thing you have to remember quick kill

its less of a mess and no agonizing dying sounds

oh yeah and dont look into the persons eyes while shooting them
they will haunt you in your sleep, but eventually you get over that too(its hard but you do)

and after all that you still can't shoot anyone
call me, it will be my pleasure.