Religion and Atheism

[KanadaHye]

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I think it actually kinda sounds like Indian music...I like it and I've been listening to Ethiopian music pretty much all day.

From the movie: Mere Yaar Ki Shaadi Hai (2002)
Singers: Alka Yagnik & Udit Narayan

The hot girl is Tulip Joshi, she's half Armenian/half Indian

I'm not sure who Udit Narayan is but I think he's using a false Armenian last name, lol.

Not bad Tulip Joshi... not bad... looks like the Armenian genes are dominant :P

[yerazhishda]

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What is that noise? I thought Indian music was annoying but wow

I think it actually kinda sounds like Indian music...I like it and I've been listening to Ethiopian music pretty much all day.

[KanadaHye]

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Maybe we should freshen our minds with some Ethiopian Orthodox mezmur music venerating our own Armenian martyr, St. Hripsime.

What is that noise? I thought Indian music was annoying but wow

[KanadaHye]

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Ty! Anything, but the shocker again. -

[Siggie]

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Maybe we should freshen our minds with some Ethiopian Orthodox mezmur music venerating our own Armenian martyr, St. Hripsime.

Ty! Anything, but the shocker again. -

[yerazhishda]

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Maybe we should freshen our minds with some Ethiopian Orthodox mezmur music venerating our own Armenian martyr, St. Hripsime.

[Sip]

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Well the self in self discipline is really redundant. Discipline is really being a disciple unto yourself. Basically a person with discipline is able to learn things on their own and constantly wanting to improve themselves.

Agreed. So you don't think "not religious = not discplined" anymore? Can we move on?

[KanadaHye]

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... and? What does that have to do with what you said about not religious = not self discipline? I don't think we disagree on what self discipline means.

Well the self in self discipline is really redundant. Discipline is really being a disciple unto yourself. Basically a person with discipline is able to learn things on their own and constantly wanting to improve themselves.

"Men are anxious to improve their circumstances, but are unwilling to improve themselves; they therefore remain bound. The man who does not shrink from self-crucifixion can never fail to accomplish the object upon which his heart is set. This is true of earthly as of heavenly things. Even the man whose object is to acquire wealth must be prepared to make great personal sacrifices before he can accomplish his object; and how much more so he who would realize a strong and well-poised life." — James Allen

[Sip]

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Uhm... I know what you're saying but I can guarantee you people with self discipline do the same basic principles periodically.... whether it's going to the gym daily, jogging every morning, etc. People with no self discipline need someone else to kick their butt or motivate them. That's basically my generalization.

... and? What does that have to do with what you said about not religious = not self discipline? I don't think we disagree on what self discipline means.

[KanadaHye]

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Once again, no one is saying you don't need disciple for religion. Actually I agree with you 110% that to follow most of these religions you have to have a LOT of self discipline. The problem with what you said is that you said the inverse which is not true.

To recap yet again:

Yes agreed: being religious = having lots of self discipline
(we agree on this so you don't have to say it again).

No, not true: not being religious = not having self discipline.
(this is where you are making your mistake and neither Siggie nor I agree with you).

Uhm... I know what you're saying but I can guarantee you people with self discipline do the same basic principles periodically.... whether it's going to the gym daily, jogging every morning, etc. People with no self discipline need someone else to kick their butt or motivate them. That's basically my generalization.

"Self-discipline is a form of freedom. Freedom from laziness and lethargy, freedom from the expectations and demands of others, freedom from weakness and fear—and doubt. Self-discipline allows a pitcher to feel his individuality, his inner strength, his talent. He is master of, rather than a slave to, his thoughts and emotions."
— H.A. Dorfman