Armenian lesbians/gays

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenian Eunichs/Hermaphrodites

Wow... you are just one bitter mo-fo, aren't you? What makes you think you're the only one who's ever worked for what he has? We have all busted our asses to be where we are, but the difference is that some of us also took the time to grow as people.

It's really too bad that your parents didn't or couldn't care for you. Mostly, thought, what I suspect is that you weren't given adequate emotional care. A lot of folks are hardworking and independent, and have been making their way for a really long time. But they've felt morally supported by their families. I know what Armenian families are like. They think they can get their kids to excel by being critical and punitive. All they do is drive their kids to rebel.

What are your roots and who are you to criticize Armenians from the middle east? At least they have families that they care enough about to bring with them.

As far as rebelling goes, there is no such thing in our culture. That is something that comes from the West where teenagers are expected to rebel as if it's some sort of normal behavior when in fact it's encouraged by the media.

[Flamenkita]

Re: Armenian Eunichs/Hermaphrodites

I'm guessing you've never worked a day of your life.... I've been working since 16 and payed my own way since I was 22 even though I could have sat at home and milked the folks like most Armenians do. Whatever, good luck feeding the feel good stories to the women in your life because those days of well paying American jobs are gone.

Wow... you are just one bitter mo-fo, aren't you? What makes you think you're the only one who's ever worked for what he has? We have all busted our asses to be where we are, but the difference is that some of us also took the time to grow as people.

It's really too bad that your parents didn't or couldn't care for you. Mostly, thought, what I suspect is that you weren't given adequate emotional care. A lot of folks are hardworking and independent, and have been making their way for a really long time. But they've felt morally supported by their families. I know what Armenian families are like. They think they can get their kids to excel by being critical and punitive. All they do is drive their kids to rebel.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenian Eunichs/Hermaphrodites

Best of luck with your import. Here's hoping the parts don't cost you your life's savings when things start falling apart. And I'm sure she relishes the fact that you're comparing "finding" her to buying a car...

Just hope she isn't biding her time for something "better", or for a way of getting the rest of her family to this side of the puddle. That's when things fell apart for my uncle and his import. She realized that life in America isn't the same as life in the Middle East, that people don't really give a crap about your material achievements. At least that's true for the people I associate with.

The more you write, the more I feel like you just fell in with a bunch of really common people, you took on their common ways, and then were disappointed that you were not meeting anyone that's not common.

And, by the way, if you see everything as a material transaction (show me more and I'll offer more? wtf?), then your connections become adversarial. What ever happened to mutuality?

I'm guessing you've never worked a day of your life.... I've been working since 16 and payed my own way since I was 22 even though I could have sat at home and milked the folks like most Armenians do. Whatever, good luck feeding the feel good stories to the women in your life because those days of well paying American jobs are gone.

[Flamenkita]

Re: Armenian Eunuchs/Hermaphrodites

Here's another story for you. When I was in my early 30's, I made friends with a young Armenian man who had just come from Turkey. He was a nice person with a lot of potential, but who was frustrated at not meeting appropriate women. So, I took him under my wing, and I taught him. I gave him advice very directly, told him exactly what to do and what not to do. I even corrected his table manners, his grooming, coached him on how to approach women, how to interact, and even issues pertaining to sex and intimacy. We talked through what he did and didn't want. Now, many years later, he is married to an awesome Armenian-American woman who has a PhD and teaches literature. They have two lovely kids, and an interesting life together. He earns a decent living, but isn't wealthy.

He very easily could have gone down the path of frustration, paranoia, and bitterness. But he was smart, and he got lucky. To this day, he thanks me for having helped him adjust.

That's just one story. I've helped others, too. The point I'm making is, where are the mothers and aunts and older sisters? Why aren't they helping the young Armenian men figure out what will make their lives worthwhile?

[Flamenkita]

Re: Armenian Eunichs/Hermaphrodites

BTW, I have found my better half but she's an import Never buy domestic, you pay way too much for something defective.

Best of luck with your import. Here's hoping the parts don't cost you your life's savings when things start falling apart. And I'm sure she relishes the fact that you're comparing "finding" her to buying a car...

Just hope she isn't biding her time for something "better", or for a way of getting the rest of her family to this side of the puddle. That's when things fell apart for my uncle and his import. She realized that life in America isn't the same as life in the Middle East, that people don't really give a crap about your material achievements. At least that's true for the people I associate with.

The more you write, the more I feel like you just fell in with a bunch of really common people, you took on their common ways, and then were disappointed that you were not meeting anyone that's not common.

And, by the way, if you see everything as a material transaction (show me more and I'll offer more? wtf?), then your connections become adversarial. What ever happened to mutuality?

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenian Eunuchs/Hermaphrodites

BTW, the correct spelling is Eunuch, not Eunich.

Noted. Thank you for the correction.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenian Eunichs/Hermaphrodites

It is so interesting to me that every attempt I have made to show that it's really not that grim a situation has been shot down. The catch is that I keep pushing the idea that to have more you have to offer more.

Show me more and I'll offer more. I'm not going to pay a lifetime of blood, sweat and tears for a lazy, used up incubator that will just sit there depressed and xxxxxy the whole time because I'm the one that made her fat while a bunch of others got the best of her. Sorry, homey don't play that.

I know you are saying that it's not that grim a situation but the fact of the matter is that IT IS THAT GRIM a situation. Sure there are some girls that fall through the cracks and have made wise decisions but they are in the minority and will probably remain at home because they've passed the age of courting and they can't find a decent guy either because most guys have become professional liars. Perhaps they can "love the way they lie" like Rhianna

BTW, I have found my better half but she's an import Never buy domestic, you pay way too much for something defective.

[Flamenkita]

Re: Armenian Eunichs/Hermaphrodites

BTW, the correct spelling is Eunuch, not Eunich.

[Flamenkita]

Re: Armenian Eunichs/Hermaphrodites

Regarding the evolution of this thread, I think it has to do with the fact that somehow all roads lead to the same place, and that is the fundamental paradoxes of being human. We all want connection and intimacy, but don't know how to make that happen. The world our parents grew up in is no longer. They didn't prepare us well for the challenges that we were going to face. So, in many ways, second and third generation Armenians living in the west have to chart their own path given a set of circumstances that are very different from what they may have been raised to expect. Sometimes what you think will make you happy isn't really the right thing for you. People who navigate the dating and relationship scene better seem to have more flexibility in their expectations.

[Flamenkita]

Re: Armenian Eunichs/Hermaphrodites

Wow, how did you ever let THOSE ones go?

Hmm... what does a man have to be to get a woman with the nurturing ability of Mother Teresa, the figure of Selma Hayek, spunk of Marisa Tomei and the stature of Pipa Middleton?

You see... no matter what a man IS, he will never be in the circles of the type of women he wants because western society breeds a bunch of uncultured simpletons.

All the regular guy has to be is sober and employed and he outclasses 75% of single guys out there.

However, those guys (who either live with other male friends or parents) have way more time to screw around with women. The guy with a career and hobbies doesn't have the time for the chase and excitement girls look for when they are "not yet mature". So what you are implying is that all guys are immature until their 30s but in reality, you don't see those guys out in the real world because they are in the types of careers that take up a lot of focus and time.

You might claim that there are women who also have little time due to their careers but lets face it, if a woman wants a man, all she has to do is wink and nod and she'll have 20 around her.

It is so interesting to me that every attempt I have made to show that it's really not that grim a situation has been shot down. The catch is that I keep pushing the idea that to have more you have to offer more.

How did I let those guys go? Well, in one's 20s and 30s there is a lot of movement and change. Most of those guys I mentioned were in the same university environment I was in, so there were also time limits.

The kind of women you are describing (compassionate, smart, spunky) are probably not hanging out at bars and agoomps.

The other mistake that I think people make is that they spend their time with the same group of people doing the same things all the time. And then they are bitter that someone new or different isn't crossing their path. Sometimes you have to put yourself into novel situations, go outside your own comfort zone. Clearly, what you've been doing so far hasn't panned out.

Also, the reason why younger women go after men who aren't available (for whatever reason), and who put on airs is because they, themselves are not ready to be in permanent relationships, so they choose people they will dump or who will eventually dump them.