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The Slaying Of U.S. Prisoner
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Death Of Nick Berg:Bush-Cheney-Pentagon PsyOp?
By URI DOWBENKO
5-12-4
Who's responsible for dumping Nick Berg, an unarmed American Jew, wearing an orange jumpsuit (with a Star of David scrawled on his back)in the middle of hostile Arab territory?
The Soviets used to call it disinformatsiya. The Pentagon calls it PsyOps, or "psychological operations." It has been effectively used to divert attention from the Abu Ghraib prison scandal of Americans torturing Iraqi civilians, 90% of whom were "arrested by mistake," according to a recent Red Cross report.
This Psychological Operation is aimed at the American Public as Faux News and other channels of disinformation propagate the images of the beheading of Nick Berg to their own advantage.
Bush-Cheney has gotten its sacrificial victim -- an expendable Jew. His father,Michael Berg, even dared complain about the unconstitutional USA Patriot Act. Worse yet, he even dared to sue the US Government for the release of his son, arrested and held in Iraq for 13 days. No charges were filed against the late Nick Berg.
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Death of Nick Berg: Bush-Cheney-Pentagon PsyOps? (continued)
by URI DOWBENKO
The decapitation of Nick Berg was fodder for the Bush propaganda-meisters of the radio like Michael Weiner, whose radio stage name is Michael Savage.
This elegant Pentagon PsyOps got the American booboisie once again focused on the co-called bad guys, al-Qaeda, even though the "terrorists" who did the dirty deed have been pronounced dead for many months. Like Orwell's 1984, the rabble has one again been fixated on "The Enemy."
Compared to the beheading of the hapless Berg -- what's a little torture by US occupation troops?
Berg's death gave Bush-Cheney a chance to say how much they deplored the atrocity -- a grand theatrical gesture for the mindless.
Bush said, "The actions of the terrorists who executed this man remind us of the nature of the few people who want to stop the advance of freedom in Iraq. Their intention is to shake our will. Their intention is to shake our confidence. Yet, by their actions, they remind us of how desperately parts of the world need free societies and peaceful societies. And we will complete our mission."
It was nothing less than brilliant Bush-Cheney-Pentagon PsyOps for the Global Theater.
What's a little rape and torture from that perspective?
However the Pentagon PsyOps meisters have got to be wondering now.
How long will this Berg distraction last?Achkerov kute.
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Originally posted by ckBejug
I REALLY hope you're just kidding or something. You blame the people who took the pictures and the whistleblower??? Holy sheit! How about we blame the sick twisted demented troops who put those prisoners through whatever it is that the pictures depict. How about we start there and reprimand what they did, not the pictures they took that are like so like uhm totally gonna make us like look bad dude.
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Originally posted by Anonymouse...However, it benefits the government in every way. It curtails civil liberties at home, it ensures politicians their seats, it means money for corporations who support politicians, such as Halliburton, it creates a reason for expansion and playing empire.
Though I agree that the government is not completely legit regarding all this, but again I don't see these to be reason enough, or benefit enough for them to take such steps. Though I'm basing this on my moral standards which may dellude my opinion.
But I agree with you in that a lot of things just don't add up. Even the death of Nick Berg, points to the U.S governmnet. But there's always another side to consider.
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Berg Mystery Turns Bizarre - A Link To 911
5-13-4
CBS News National Security Correspondent David Martin reports on what is turning into a bizarre mystery with a connection to 9/11.
U.S. officials say the FBI questioned Berg in 2002 after a computer password Berg used in college turned up in the possession of Zaccarias Moussaoui, the al Qaeda operative arrested shortly before 9/11 for his suspicious activity at a flight school in Minnesota.
The bureau had already dismissed the connection between Berg and Moussaoui as nothing more than a college student who had been careless about protecting his password.
But in the wake of Berg's gruesome murder, it becomes a stranger than fiction coincidence -- an American who inadvertently gave away his computer password to one notorious al Qaeda operative is later murdered by another notorious al Qaeda operative.
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Berg Story Debunked - Statement Did NOT Say 'al Qaeda'
OCTAVIA NASR, CNN Sr. Editor for Arab Affairs
5-14-4
Quote:O'BRIEN: Interesting. All right, now one final thought here. You did a very careful translation of your own, of the statement. And in it, you see no reference to al Qaeda. And yet the official U.S. government translation does. Explain how that happened.
NASR: Oh, I find it very interesting, because out of the blue, there is a mention of al Qaeda on the U.S. government translation. It says: "Does al Qaeda need any further excuses?" Any speaker of the Arabic language is going to notice a difference between the word al Qaeda, which means "the base," and al qaed, which means "the one sitting, doing nothing."
My translation says: "Is there any excuse for the one who sits down and does nothing?" Basically they're telling people, you have no excuse for not doing anything, for not acting and defending Islam and so forth. Whereas the U.S. government translation has this factual error, I'm sure it's an honest mistake, but basically it sort of adds al Qaeda to the statement, which is not on the statement.
OCTAVIA NASR, SR. EDITOR FOR ARAB AFFAIRS
Aired on CNN May 12, 2004 - 12:59 ET
O'BRIEN: Responses throughout the Middle East are reflected, of course, in Arab TV coverage. Our senior editor of Arab affairs, Octavia Nasr, who watches Arab the Arab television assiduously, is here to give us a little sense of what's being said and perhaps more important in this story, what is being shown and not shown. The big question is, of course, on this tape, just horrific tape, which is available on the Web, obviously. Are places like Al-Arabiya, Al Jazeera, are they showing it in its entirety?
OCTAVIA NASR, CNN SR. EDITOR FOR ARAB AFFAIRS: No. Arab viewers of the big networks, as well as the local TV stations did not see the actual execution. They did see at the beginning of this tape, just like we saw here on CNN and most Western networks, you saw the beginning of the tape right before the beheading. They reported on it, and as a side story. It certainly isn't playing as a big story or as the story.
O'BRIEN: That's very interesting. When we hearken back to Danny Pearl, "The Wall Street Journal" reporter who was killed in Pakistan in 2002, the entirety of that, which included a beheading, was shown on these outlets. What happened? What changed?
NASR: What changed is the learning. And also the reaction to showing gruesome pictures and atrocities and the reaction from viewers and authorities alike. Also, it has been a few years since then. Back then, there was no Al-Arabiya. Al-Arabiya is brand new. It started a few weeks before the war last year.
Again, it's a learning process. It seems that the networks are responding to their viewers. Remember, Al Jazeera is seen all over the world, the Americas, Africa, Asia, Australia, all over the world. And viewers there are not accepting of these images as people in the Arab world are.
O'BRIEN: Well, let me ask you this. You've had a chance to really listen to this tape and get a sense who might be responsible, just by deciphering, say, accents. And certainly, there in the Arab world, they're very attuned to that. And given the fact of who this may or may not be, does that have some effect on how it is being played?
NASR: Yes, and if you listen to these voices that we're hearing on Arab networks, Iraqis are condemning this execution. And they're saying these are foreigners. These are not Iraqis. They do not represent us and so forth.
Now, of course, the original claim was that Zarqawi is the actual man who performed this execution. Our experts listened to the accent, as you said, and they determined the accent is not Jordanian...
O'BRIEN: He is a Jordanian who is working supposedly, allegedly, at the behest of al Qaeda in Iraq. So go ahead.
NASR: Right, he is very close to bin Laden, and works, you're right, as an agent of al Qaeda in Iraq. Now, the accent is not Jordanian so that takes the Jordanian element out of the story immediately.
O'BRIEN: Interesting. All right, now one final thought here. You did a very careful translation of your own, of the statement. And in it, you see no reference to al Qaeda. And yet the official U.S. government translation does. Explain how that happened.
NASR: Oh, I find it very interesting, because out of the blue, there is a mention of al Qaeda on the U.S. government translation. It says: "Does al Qaeda need any further excuses?" Any speaker of the Arabic language is going to notice a difference between the word al Qaeda, which means "the base," and al qaed, which means "the one sitting, doing nothing."
My translation says: "Is there any excuse for the one who sits down and does nothing?" Basically they're telling people, you have no excuse for not doing anything, for not acting and defending Islam and so forth. Whereas the U.S. government translation has this factual error, I'm sure it's an honest mistake, but basically it sort of adds al Qaeda to the statement, which is not on the statement.
O'BRIEN: All right, Octavia Nasr, we don't know exactly how that got in there. We'll try to get more on that. We appreciate you bringing that all to light and appreciate your insights, of course.
NASR: You bet.
Achkerov kute.
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