Cheating at a young age

[sSsflamesSs]

As for the thread, I wouldn't be saying anything new. The girl has no respect for herself, and the guy's just a selfish pig. They're both guilty for the downfall of this relationship.

[hyebruin]

"For God, so loved the world and man, that he gave him a p*nis to think and play with"--

[thedebutante]

I do not understand what the problem with this is. This is exactly what I argued in the infernal abortion thread, yet I was ostracized. When a girl is pregnant, it is not "50 - 50", it is entirely her fault for having openned her legs in the first place. That is why women who have abortions that are not rape or incest, the supposed trump card, I am against that. It is simply their prurient interests that led them to that avenue in the first place. Hold out. Don't screw around. Wait till marriage if you must. If you can't, then it is entirely your fault. The reason it is ultimately the girls fault is because they are the last ones that have a say in it, to open their legs or not, to do it or not. If they choose not to engage in carnal desires, a male rapes them, it is the man's fault. But no where can a woman tell me it is "50, 50". That is the stupid crap we have accepted these days. This doesn't mean engage in only one type of behavior, but know the consequences of your actions.

I’m not a proponent of abstinence so I disagree. It is only the girl’s fault if she does not insist on the proper use of contraceptives when she has sex. I mean, if the freakin condom breaks and the girl is on the pill and she still gets pregnant, can you really blame anyone? What if you’re married and don’t want to have kids for another two years? Do you not have sex with your husband for fear that it’s your fault if you get pregnant?

[XxgoeyxX]

I'm sorry to say this, but this is a load of crap. If we go by your thinking, then it's entirely the GUY'S fault for sticking his tool in her. He is the "last" one to have a say in it.

Cut the crap, please. It's a two-way street. 50/50

If the girl was raped then yes he had that "last" say. But I dont think it is that way if he didnt rape her. Because the girl gives him the right to do what he does. She opens the door. Let him in to enjoy all he wants. Like I said before girls can be stronger about this. They can say "No"..."Damn It NO I tell you." and if that isnt getting through to him, then he isnt worth the headache. Move on..find someone else.

anyways, I also wanted to add again that One opens the door and the other takes advantage of it. This goes for both men and women. Its not a matter of who said "what first or did what first." What matters is how you use your damn brain. I might want to be sexually active with my bf but I choose not to. That means I have the "last" say Not the frist. That is how I feel and that is what I strongly believe in. and when I mean strongly I mean STRONGLY. But but if I give him the right away...no xxxx its my fault. My beliefs are now gone and I just want sex to please him.

like I said before there is something called free will and now a days people take advantage of that and do whatever they want without thinking or caring.

[sSsflamesSs]

If the girl was raped then yes he had that "last" say. But I dont think it is that way if he didnt rape her. Because the girl gives him the right to do what he does. She opens the door. Let him in to enjoy all he wants. Like I said before girls can be stronger about this. They can say "No"..."Damn It NO I tell you." and if that isnt getting through to him, then he isnt worth the headache. Move on..find someone else.

anyways, I also wanted to add again that One opens the door and the other takes advantage of it. This goes for both men and women. Its not a matter of who said "what first or did what first." What matters is how you use your damn brain. I might want to be sexually active with my bf but I choose not to. That means I have the "last" say Not the frist. That is how I feel and that is what I strongly believe in. and when I mean strongly I mean STRONGLY. But but if I give him the right away...no xxxx its my fault. My beliefs are now gone and I just want sex to please him.

like I said before there is something called free will and now a days people take advantage of that and do whatever they want without thinking or caring.

The part that pisses me off about what he says is NOT that the girl is guilty (she's just as guilty), but that he completely rids the guy of ANY responsibility. That's just plain stupid.

I'm a very strong advocate of free will. Don't you see how what he said completely ignores free will? Did the guy have no choice? Was the girl the only one with free will? Please elaborate on that.

[Crimson Glow]

Well, I got into this a bit on the abortion thread as well. I'm not taking any of the blame away from the guys, but women are supposedly already fully aware that men are pigs. So if men are the immature jerk-offs, and women are the innocent ones, why aren't they more cautious or steadfast on their stance? OH, that's right. Because girls are just as much horny pigs as men are. They just like to pretend that they're above that. Stop descriminating between the sexes, and face the facts: People in general are oversexed, irresponsible sh*theads, period.

All the guy has to do is "get-off", and his work is done. Whatever happens afterwards is now dumped on the woman, fair, or not. So, since we know that most men will f*ck anything with a wet hole and breasts, it's up to the women to "keep them out of the gates", so to speak. It may take 2 to create a life, but it's inside the woman where that life is created, and it is the woman that will be carrying that child for 9 months. The guy couldn't care less. Worse comes to worst, he can just flee the state. I'm not talking about letting guys off the hook, and I'm not telling you it's fair. I'm talking about whose going to suffer the bigger consequences for the irresponsible act.

[thedebutante]

K, peeps, you should have given us this bit of info right from the beginning. All I have to say is props to your buddy. This girl obviously does not respect herself and until she does that, she can't respect anyone else. As far as I'm concerned, she has no reason to be mad at your friend. She freakin gave him the green light to screw around! And if she was just testing him, then it was either a bad test or she has a grading scale in mind and would tell him if he passed in due time.

You know what, screw this mentality. Any Armenian girl who thinks that her boyfriend should randomly hook-up because he's not getting some from her just yet needs to get a life. Bottom line, if he loves you, he'd respect you and wait. And screw the so-called Golden Rules too. If you think that way, then you'd be s l u t t i n g it around like there is no tomorrow. Didn't mean to get carried away, but girls we have to be a bit stronger.

Btw, it seems that I may have offended some forumers by using the word s l u t t i n g in my post. Instead of apologizing to only those that were concerned, I would like to apologize to the whole forum. However, I do not wish to retract or change any part of my statement because I did not mean to attack anyone or single him or her out. For those who were personally offended by my statement, may I suggest that you look to your conscience rather than attach a deeper meaning to the words that I choose. And of course, good day to you too.

[XxgoeyxX]

You didnt do anything wrong. I agreed with your statement. You were Right. Well, In my opinion!

[thedebutante]

You didnt do anything wrong. I agreed with your statement. You were Right. Well, In my opinion!

Well, thank you. I agree with you too. But it's best to apologize. I've got apologies dripping down my ass, it doesn't matter.

[AghchigGabig]

I can't imagine ever being dumb enough to tell my boyfriend to go have his fun since he is young and should be able to do as he pleases. If it was a situation in which a guy was coming clean after four indescretions (without my having told him to run off and have sex with other girls) I think it would be difficult to trust the guy, not that he means it when he says he loves me, but that he is being truthful when he says he respects me. What he did was terribly disrespectful and I honestly don't think any self-respecting girl should take back a guy like that. Things would never be the same again, in moments of argument or disagreement when such things would add fuel to the already growing fire you KNOW it's going to come up again even if you've promised yourself and each other that it won't. It just seems like a headache on top of all the heartache to take such a person back. On top of which, if he was truly trying to be honest with her, if he was a good person beneath it all, he should have told her what he did before he slept with her. Not just to protect her health in the off chance that something might have gone wrong without his knowing it and she has every right to know, but also because she might have made a very different decision as to whether or not to go ahead and sleep with him had she known of his prior cheating... I really don't understand the cowardice of men who cheat and hide and lie about something that always always comes out in the end.