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Originally posted by nunechkai
i wish they had better ones for example a catwoman that was holding a WHIP and looking all sexy!
This will do, but the real catwoman is ofcourse much more sexier
you guys can all use this instead of that evil smilie from now on!! I give permission.
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Originally posted by nunechkalol... i would only care if my BF/Husband, etc... didn't open/hold doors for me, now THAT matters to me...
those other people just happen to have better manners... i like that too... i do it for other girls and guys too... or really old people... i have manners, and so do a lot of other people... i guess i would give up the opening of doors and compliments by others if they would just respect me without thinking that i have a vagina... i want to have the same job opportunities, and i want my opinion to be heard without someone saying HEY your a girl thats why you are saying that...
plus i think you are much younger then me... just wait until you are in the job market, and you realize that all the men in your division, even the ones who have less education, less experiences, and much less of anything else, get paid more then the women in the same positions with more experience, more education, etc... then you'll wonder why, and when you realize why, you'll be as negative about this issue as i am...
and only because of that have i started to consider marriage, because before that i didnt want to get married... when i was 16 all i could think about was my marriage, the planning of the wedding etc... then when i was 18 i was like WTF was wrong with me, i just want to date... and when i was 20 i thought i would like to fall in love with someone (still no marriage), and now that i am 24, i want marriage but only if we are clear about our financial situation... i dont accept freeloaders, and i dont plan on being one either...
but when men hear this or even think about it, they think i want to control them, how is that i am controlling them when i am just simply an equal contributer (financially) to the marriage??? well thats because men have egos much larger then their tiny penises, and so they want to be "THE MAN" and thats where i draw the line...
my brother and other guy friends always said, you treat yourself like an Armenian Princess, and i would say YES! i am, and a guy should be happy to be with me, i will take good care of him and he will take good care of me... BUT i am still a princess...
So my BF bought me a coffee mug that says "Armenian Princess" on it...
very fitting...
Why Men Earn More
by Wendy McElroy
Why Men Earn More: The Startling Truth Behind the Pay Gap And What Women Can Do About It is Warren Farrell's latest book, and a fascinating read.
It has stirred vigorous and predictable debate about what causes the "wage gap" by which the average female employee is said to earn approximately 80 cents for every dollar paid to a man.
But what I view as Farrell's most controversial point remains undiscussed. Namely, should women use affirmative action – that is, government-mandated preferences – to 'correct' the free market's wage gap and make more money? Farrell, who is usually associated with male empowerment, says "yes."
He provides detailed advice on how to do so, for example through tax-funded tuition and other programs unavailable to men.
The first part of the book revolves around refuting feminism's explanation of the wage gap: namely that it results from rampant discrimination against women in the workplace.
Many arguments surrounding the wage gap are not addressed, however.
For example, women's lack of access to various well-paying blue collar jobs due to union policies and attitudes. But addressing such arguments is not the book's purpose. Refuting the specific feminist claim of discrimination is. And Farrell ably accomplishes this goal on two levels.
First, he cites research and extensive government data to demonstrate that women who compete for the same job often earn more than men, not less.
In Table 6, Farrell compares the starting salaries for women and men with Bachelor's Degrees in 26 categories of employment, from investment banker to dietician. Women are paid equally in one category; in every other category, their starting salaries exceed men's. A female investment banker's starting salary is 116 percent of a man's. A female dietician's is 130 percent; that is, $23,160 compared to $17,680.
Second, Farrell analyzes the data that does reflect a wage gap. But rather than seeing oppression in the data, he perceives free choice.
He argues: women commonly prefer jobs with shorter and more flexible hours to accommodate the demands of family. Compared to men, they generally favor jobs that involve little danger, no travel and good social skills. Such jobs generally pay less.
Farrell rejects the conclusion of 'discrimination' because it does not reflect the fact that female employees express different preferences than males.
Men's rights advocate Carey Roberts identifies one such difference. "[T]he sheer amount of work. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, full-time men clock an average of 45 hours a week, while women put in 42 hours. Men are more than twice as likely as women to work at least 50 hours a week."
Women's lifestyle choices partly explain their absence from certain professions, especially dangerous ones. Roberts observes, "Men represent 92 percent of all occupational deaths. Why? Because if you look at a list of the most hazardous occupations – fire fighting, truck driving, construction, and mining – they have 96–98 percent male employees, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics."
Farrell believes that women can make the same salaries as men and enter "male professions" if they are willing to make the same employment choices. Accordingly, he offers practical advice to women, much of which is extremely useful.
Nevertheless, I balk whenever Farrell offers advice on how to maximize government privileges at the expense of men, who must compete at a disadvantage and pay taxes for programs that exclude them from benefits.
For example, under the heading "Get Hazard Pay Without the Hazards," Farrell tells women to enter dangerous occupations. There they can reap the same salary as men while avoiding comparable risk because employers who are compelled to hire women commonly shield them from risks.
Thus, Farrell explains, women get a "'death professions bonus' with not much more physical risk than in everyday life."
Using the military as an example, Farrell argues that women "comprise approximately 15 percent of active-duty military personnel, and 10 percent of those deployed in Iraq." Yet women constitute approximately 2.6 percent of soldiers killed in Iraq; men constitute 97.4 percent. Indeed, "in the Marines and Air Force it's a 100 percent chance of returning." That's because a daughter is "much more likely to choose, or be chosen for, the military's safer fields."
Farrell offers an explanation as to why women's safety becomes a priority. "Whether...on an Alaskan fishing boat or in the American military, men's protective instinct toward women, and women's protective instinct toward themselves (and children) keeps men more disposable than women."
In short, men will assume greater risk to protect a woman co-worker. Farrell calls this male protective instinct "touching."
(Of course, many women don't wish to be "shielded" from the job they signed on to do. Others find it offensive for policies to assume women can't or shouldn't work on an equal footing beside men. Such women do not wish to exploit those policies; they want to change them.)
But quite another factor underlies the situations that continue to make men "more disposable": government policy. Indeed, even private industry commonly implements preference for women's safety out of fear of lawsuits for harms such as exposure to chemicals or other stress during pregnancy.
A government that discriminates on the basis of sex or race violates a basic principle of justice. The law must apply to every human being equally.
This is the core of my disagreement: Farrell believes in affirmative action and, so, advises women to "game the system" in order to make money. I reject affirmative action and, so, seek to eliminate the system in order to make justice.
Nevertheless, "Why Men Earn More" goes on my reference shelf as a book I will quote and re-read despite disagreements.Achkerov kute.
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#1. i have real life examples of PAY GAPS! like my job and ALL OTHER WOMEN in this entire institution and others that we contract with... ALL of them are REALITY based UNlike that "male empowerment" writer how crazy is that, how much more POWER do men need?
Edit: The rest of this post was drivel. Good arguments that cited statistics were posted and you responded with empty rhetoric. I'm guessing you haven't actually read the book that was being talked about, so you probably shouldn't be coming to conclusions about it or its author so quickly. Stop yelling like a madman and throwing insults around every time someone disagrees with you. If you have legitimate counterpoints, post them.Last edited by loseyourname; 02-25-2005, 06:07 PM.
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Originally posted by CatWomanMEOW...
This will do, but the real catwoman is ofcourse much more sexier
you guys can all use this instead of that evil smilie from now on!! I give permission.The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott Fitzgerald
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Originally posted by nunechkabut honey its too big... the smilies are small and compact... but its greatThe test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott Fitzgerald
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