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[omniscient]

I remember reading an article a while back about this subject. The conclusion was that children who are raised in a nursery home are often smarter, do better in school, but are more distant from their family, and tend to have weaker values.

Even if this article stated facts I would rather be close to my family and have good values and if being slightly "more dumb" comes with that, then so be it. I know I would be happier this way too and more empty the other way. Besides, that whole smart thing is more from social interaction and not your potential limitation.

[TomServo]

Even if this article stated facts I would rather be close to my family and have good values and if being slightly "more dumb" comes with that, then so be it. I know I would be happier this way too and more empty the other way. Besides, that whole smart thing is more from social interaction and not your potential limitation.

Agreed.

[thedebutante]

Nothing against you, but I hate girls with that mentality in bold above And this is all depending on having kids and still working. But if you take the raising kids part out then the statement in bold you made is fine I guess.

yeah, i'm just trying to explain that the type of lifestyle you want has to do with what type of decisions you make (as far as spouse compatibility and values go). obviously you cant start making such demands after you are married and have your husband thinking you're going to be raising the kids and that's that. you have to basically make sure that the two of you are on the same page about stuff before kids...

i'm not saying that my "mentality" is the correct one, nor am i saying everyone should have it. i simply meant that that's the type of decision i've made and that's the type of guy i go for.

[spiral]

I think being a house wife during those years is the most crucial thing. And I'm not saying the roles can't be reversed but I personally wouldn't and most guys wouldn't either and I can elaborate fully on that if anyone wants me to.

Yes, please elaborate on that.

Why would you not want to?

Let's say that your wife happens to have a better paying job, with far better opportunities than you. Why couldn't you take on the "house husband" role for a couple of years?

[Sip]

This "house holding is a full time job" thing has gone waaaay overboard recently. Sure about 30-40 years ago when the women had to milk the cow, churn the butter, harvest the grain and make flour to make dough for the bread, etc etc yah it was more than a full time job. But now with chicken breasts ready to grill, George Forman grills, microwaves, self cleaning ovens, dish washers, clothes washers and driers, and heck even those nifty little wet clorox towels for cleanup, the "house holding" has basically reduced to less than a 30 minute a day job on average.

The only house holding that is now needed is when there is kids involved and since the woman has to take off for maternity leave ANYWAY to give birth, I don't see why she can't just take a few more months off until the little bastards are ready for a day care or good'ol grandma

Having said that though, I really don't think spending 12+ hours a day at work when there are children in the family is a healthy thing by either parent. But there's no reason why both of them can't work full time and still have plenty o-time for the little ones.

[Sip]

Any girl that thinks about working during those years is a waste of human life and I don't see how any clear headed guy would want to be with them. And if you tell me you can always put them in a nursery or a day care while you work well then I feel sorry for anyone that says that.

Feel free to feel sorry for this unclear headed guy here A few months (let's say up to 6) after the birth of the kid yah ... but few years? If that theory were true, wouldn't all these welfare babies with their unemployed momas at home all the time on her arse turn out to be model citizens?

[thedebutante]

the "house holding" has basically reduced to less than a 30 minute a day job on average.

riiiiiiiiiiiiiight

[Sip]

Meaning what? What exactly do you do at home that takes you soooo long to do?

[Siggie]

Cooking and washing the dishes alone takes that long per day.

[Anonymouse]

I've washed dishes and laundry, and it's a matter of 30-40 mins. And then the laundry is nothing more than transferring the wet ones into the drier. Voila! Thank the lord for washing machines [and capitalism for bringing us these innovations], since I can't imagine anyone touching that dirty yucky laundry [sometimes with poop (like in my avatar) if you're still an infant] with their hands.