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  • #11
    Re: Bush Weighs Deploying Guard to U.S.

    Originally posted by imhye
    Who drew the lines? What does that have to do with illegal immigration.

    Who drew the lines of Armenia? The lines are wrong and never right.

    Wrong or not, if you are an illegal immigrant, you are breaking the law and causing others to suffer.

    Why don't the Mexicans accept being sent back and then trying the legal way. That's a fair deal. Usually you are banned from entering the country for a decade or two, maybe life.
    Maybe we should work towards a situation where there are no borders or the need for them. More of a balance in world wealth would be one direction. Have you ever lived in Mexico? The horrible living conditions in many places in Mexico are largely a result of US foreign policy. Why should where someone is born make them feel superior? You don't sound familiar with the process of getting legal status in the US--and most European immigrants have a MUCH easier time than Latin American immigrants (and many other places.)

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    • #12
      Re: Bush Weighs Deploying Guard to U.S.

      Originally posted by Anahita
      Maybe we should work towards a situation where there are no borders or the need for them. More of a balance in world wealth would be one direction. Have you ever lived in Mexico? The horrible living conditions in many places in Mexico are largely a result of US foreign policy. Why should where someone is born make them feel superior? You don't sound familiar with the process of getting legal status in the US--and most European immigrants have a MUCH easier time than Latin American immigrants (and many other places.)
      NO!!! The horrible living conditions in Mexico is because they believe threre should be a perminant underclass to keep the economy going!

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      • #13
        Re: Bush Weighs Deploying Guard to U.S.

        A world without borders will never happen. It will happen only after mankind has been extinct.

        I may not be familiar with getting legal status in the US because I was born here so I'm a citizen, but I have cousins and relatives who have to wait, wait, and wait to get their green card or visas whatever they call 'em.

        In the past (before the illegal Mexican mess) it was much easier, less costly, and w/o a ridiculous amount of waiting.

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        • #14
          Re: Bush Weighs Deploying Guard to U.S.

          Originally posted by Quarteria
          NO!!! The horrible living conditions in Mexico is because they believe threre should be a perminant underclass to keep the economy going!
          Since the 1950's (even before) there have been economic (foreign) policies (often backed by the US military) that created real material poverty where there were once people supporting themselves off the wealth of nature. Same damn thing is happening in India right now.

          Mega-corporate agricultural conglomerates (e.g. monsanto with their 'gmo' seeds-of-death) combined with a state military force. That is not always the US military, but sometimes is the US.
          Last edited by Anahita; 05-12-2006, 08:38 PM.

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          • #15
            Re: Bush Weighs Deploying Guard to U.S.

            Originally posted by imhye
            A world without borders will never happen. It will happen only after mankind has been extinct.

            I may not be familiar with getting legal status in the US because I was born here so I'm a citizen, but I have cousins and relatives who have to wait, wait, and wait to get their green card or visas whatever they call 'em.

            In the past (before the illegal Mexican mess) it was much easier, less costly, and w/o a ridiculous amount of waiting.
            Regardless about how you feel about immigration, MILITARIZATION of the US borders is a terrible, awful, dangerous, generally BAD idea.

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            • #16
              Re: Bush Weighs Deploying Guard to U.S.

              I think it's a good idea. Within a few months they will realize that if your cross illegally you are going to get shot by professional marksmen and you are going to be put in jail until they process your departure, if you aren't killed.

              I think this solution will decrease illegal immigration significantly.

              Besides, try crossing into some European countries.

              Also, if you commit a crime the police shoot you and puts you in jail, no? It's not like we can have LAPD at the border.

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              • #17
                Re: Bush Weighs Deploying Guard to U.S.

                Originally posted by imhye
                I think it's a good idea. Within a few months they will realize that if your cross illegally you are going to get shot by professional marksmen and you are going to be put in jail until they process your departure.

                I think this solution will decrease illegal immigration significantly.

                Besides, try crossing into some European countries.

                Also, if you commit a crime the police shoot you and puts you in jail, no? It's not like we can have LAPD at the border.
                In what city do you live?

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                • #18
                  Re: Bush Weighs Deploying Guard to U.S.

                  Los Angeles (the SF valley to be specific)

                  You?

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                  • #19
                    Re: Bush Weighs Deploying Guard to U.S.

                    Originally posted by imhye
                    Los Angeles (the SF valley to be specific)

                    You?
                    I live in Madison, Wisconsin. I love living here. I'd like the freedom to move from here or for others to move to here, if we choose.

                    Suppose Wisconsin had a military. Suppose Wisconsin started arming the Wisconsin/Illinois border. Or what if the City of Madison (or LA, or wherever) started sealing the borders with armed forces. Do you see how this is just an absurd idea, in general? That's not even getting at the sinister motivations behind this US/Mexico thing.

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                    • #20
                      Re: Bush Weighs Deploying Guard to U.S.

                      Originally posted by imhye
                      I think it's a good idea. Within a few months they will realize that if your cross illegally you are going to get shot by professional marksmen and you are going to be put in jail until they process your departure, if you aren't killed.

                      I think this solution will decrease illegal immigration significantly.

                      Besides, try crossing into some European countries.

                      Also, if you commit a crime the police shoot you and puts you in jail, no? It's not like we can have LAPD at the border.
                      Amen!! The reason we have such a problem is BECAUSE we have let it got this far!!

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